Would you vote for Obama again?

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Permalink Reply by Dukecityspecialist on August 31, 2010 at 5:55pm

the problem with the govt run option it the opposition that it receives in washington. They tried to get it but of course most repubs dont want that shit. What we have now is a start and a step towards the right direction. NO one even thought we wouldve gotten this far as little as it may be.

a tie a said:

a lot of people can't find jobs because companies, both big and small, can't afford it.

and with healthcare, the gov't should run a healthcare company like Medicare for everyone for COMPETITION, a so-called American value. this would lower prices, and increase quality of coverage. just saying. not that relevant to what u said, but it'd be good to have. any1 who says it's communism is an idiot. straight up.

Mark said:

the other thing about the healthcare system is when the government says something isnt cost effective they dont have to cover it. once they are into it we the ppl wont even have a choice. what are u going to do then? just cuz all of america is going to have health care doesnt mean we wont have serious issues with it. how much of america dont have health care cuz they dont have jobs or dont try also? im refering to the ppl that just live off the government and they dont try. i am not talking to the ppl that have lost their jobs.

Colin P. said:

but if you do think we should regulate healthcare corporations, then where do we stop? What industry will be next? It will go on and on until this liberal administration is completely regulating everything we do, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people. And THAT is Communism my friend.

a tie a said:

1st paragraph
r u telling me Obama is trying to get rid of Congress and take their power? if so, ur insane, coz that's literally how i interpreted that. and if u think we shouldn't regulate healthcare corporations, then u clearly don't understand what's wrong with our healthcare system.

I agree, the mandate sucks. but at least the tax/fine w/e u call it isn't going to healthcare industries (if i'm wrong give me a link to a legit source).

I REALLY hope u were on Bush's ass for the Patriot Act that violated the Consitituion, because what u talked about is nothing compared to that. and really... idc about telling my healthcare info, financial info blah blah blah. i don't see how that's an issue. and can u give me some sources about it? sounds like an interesting read.

but i have one problem: you REALLY are telling me the LEFT hates the Constitution? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT WING HAS NO RESPECT TO IT? They have NO religous tolerance on the stupid non-issue ground zero mosque, NO respect for privacy when Bush did the Patriot Act, that SHITS on that petty info we supposedly have to give (tho i hate Obama for repealing the Patriot Act. BUT i know if it didn't exist he wouldn't have brought anything like that up again). They are literally trying to get rid of the 14th Amendment. and you tell LIBERALS we don't care? IS THAT A JOKE? i can give you MULPTIPLE sources about Republicans not giving a shit about the Constitution. Challenge me and i will gladly do so.
i have 0 respect to people who give me this. i'm not saying all right winger are morons, but when people give me this kind of ignorant bs, i get incredibly pissed, because i actually follow politics, unlike you apparenlty. Obama isn't even a fucking left winger. he plays politics and gives in to the Republicans on every issue, inclduing this healthcare u hate so much.

Colin P. said:

this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed.

The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people and the businesses they own. The irony is that the Congress doesn’t have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with. I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care.

This legislation also provides for access by the appointees of the Obama administration of all of your personal healthcare information, your personal financial information, and the information of your employer, physician, and hospital. All of this is a direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide.

If you decide not to have healthcare insurance or if you have private insurance that is not deemed “acceptable” to the “Health Choices Administrator” appointed by Obama there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a “tax” instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. However, that doesn’t work because since there is nothing in the law that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax, it is definitely depriving someone of property without the “due process of law.

So, there are three of those pesky amendments that the far left hate so much out the original ten in the Bill of Rights that are effectively nullified by this law. It doesn’t stop there though. The 9th Amendment that provides: “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people;” The 10th Amendment states: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are preserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control.

a tie a said:

can u stupid fuckers who oppose us libs actually EXPLAIN why you think ur position is the right one? all u do is ignorant bashing while never backing ur own points

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Permalink Reply by a tie a on August 31, 2010 at 6:46pm

you are soooooo ignorant!@#@!#@!#@!$#$Q%^&
Communism is everything state runl. these companies need the government to prevent them from fucking everyone else over. idc wtf u call it. if it works, then it's good. when am i saying people should be given everything? ur fucking retarded. jesus fucking christ
the bigger picture? what do u want me to put it in? WE DIDN'T REUGLATE THE BANKS THAT CAUSED A GLOBAL ECONOMIC DROP
are u fucking kidding me?
instead of giving me real arguments, u sound like Fox News 'COMMUNIST'!' god damn. the U.S has 0 ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO regulations on everything, and that's why this country is run by giant corporations, who pay off politicians to suck their dicks and forget about us.

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Permalink Reply by ₡₱♛ on August 31, 2010 at 7:01pm

a tie a said:

you are soooooo ignorant!@#@!#@!#@!$#$Q%^&
Communism is everything state runl. these companies need the government to prevent them from fucking everyone else over. idc wtf u call it. if it works, then it's good. when am i saying people should be given everything? ur fucking retarded. jesus fucking christ
the bigger picture? what do u want me to put it in? WE DIDN'T REUGLATE THE BANKS THAT CAUSED A GLOBAL ECONOMIC DROP
are u fucking kidding me?
instead of giving me real arguments, u sound like Fox News 'COMMUNIST'!' god damn. the U.S has 0 ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO regulations on everything, and that's why this country is run by giant corporations, who pay off politicians to suck their dicks and forget about us.

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Permalink Reply by a tie a on August 31, 2010 at 7:36pm

yes

Cole said:

a tie a said:

you are soooooo ignorant!@#@!#@!#@!$#$Q%^&
Communism is everything state runl. these companies need the government to prevent them from fucking everyone else over. idc wtf u call it. if it works, then it's good. when am i saying people should be given everything? ur fucking retarded. jesus fucking christ
the bigger picture? what do u want me to put it in? WE DIDN'T REUGLATE THE BANKS THAT CAUSED A GLOBAL ECONOMIC DROP
are u fucking kidding me?
instead of giving me real arguments, u sound like Fox News 'COMMUNIST'!' god damn. the U.S has 0 ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO regulations on everything, and that's why this country is run by giant corporations, who pay off politicians to suck their dicks and forget about us.

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Permalink Reply by Colin P. on August 31, 2010 at 7:47pm

haha. You wanna argue about politics, but you cant even have a civil conversation and dont even have enough respect to talk like a man. You throw out statements like "Jesus Christ, your a fucking retard" and it shows everyone just how little maturity you have and therefore everything you say should be disregarded.

a tie a said:

yes
Cole said:

a tie a said:

you are soooooo ignorant!@#@!#@!#@!$#$Q%^&
Communism is everything state runl. these companies need the government to prevent them from fucking everyone else over. idc wtf u call it. if it works, then it's good. when am i saying people should be given everything? ur fucking retarded. jesus fucking christ
the bigger picture? what do u want me to put it in? WE DIDN'T REUGLATE THE BANKS THAT CAUSED A GLOBAL ECONOMIC DROP
are u fucking kidding me?
instead of giving me real arguments, u sound like Fox News 'COMMUNIST'!' god damn. the U.S has 0 ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO regulations on everything, and that's why this country is run by giant corporations, who pay off politicians to suck their dicks and forget about us.

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Permalink Reply by a tie a on August 31, 2010 at 8:08pm

says the one using logic 'YOU SUPPORT COMMUNISM WHAT NOW'
i can't argue with people with the mentality of a mentally disabled cow, so excuse me for being frustrated with ur extreme ignorance

Colin P. said:

haha. You wanna argue about politics, but you cant even have a civil conversation and dont even have enough respect to talk like a man. You throw out statements like "Jesus Christ, your a fucking retard" and it shows everyone just how little maturity you have and therefore everything you say should be disregarded.

a tie a said:

yes
Cole said:

a tie a said:

you are soooooo ignorant!@#@!#@!#@!$#$Q%^&
Communism is everything state runl. these companies need the government to prevent them from fucking everyone else over. idc wtf u call it. if it works, then it's good. when am i saying people should be given everything? ur fucking retarded. jesus fucking christ
the bigger picture? what do u want me to put it in? WE DIDN'T REUGLATE THE BANKS THAT CAUSED A GLOBAL ECONOMIC DROP
are u fucking kidding me?
instead of giving me real arguments, u sound like Fox News 'COMMUNIST'!' god damn. the U.S has 0 ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO regulations on everything, and that's why this country is run by giant corporations, who pay off politicians to suck their dicks and forget about us.

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Permalink Reply by Drahfy Nova on September 2, 2010 at 9:15pm

underdog

Andrew Nonya said:

Honestly, I don't vote and even if I did the last election was just so bad, I couldn't pick.
We need a strong third party.

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Permalink Reply by Daniel Herron on September 6, 2010 at 11:56am

the track record b4 obama entered jus so everyone stop making it a one sided attack.

Idk lest we forget - the Republican legacy:

More porous border for millions of more illegals -
Global economic meltdown -
Global loss of respect for America - lost moral high ground -
USA Becomes a TORTURE STATE leading to global hatred of America -
Health Care: skyrocketing insurance premiums, increasing family bankruptcies, dropped coverages
Katrina deaths and abandonment of the city and the people New Orleans -
Deaths of 4300 courageous US military personal and 200,000 innocent Iraqis in an unnecessary war - Skimped on body armor for soldiers -
Walter Reid decline & disgrace -
Near poverty military pay -
Sub-standard support of military families and returning soldiers and wounded -
Over a $ trillion already spent on an unnecessary war and likely $2 trillion more for future follow-up - blow-back, and V.A. costs for lifetime of all current and future Iraq related veterans -
Shameful treatment of local civilian populations -
Degenerate torture prisons -
Let Bin Ladin go at Tora Bora -
Bin Ladin family flight out of U.S. on 9/12 -
Al Qaida & Taliban not finished off in Afg -
Bush walking hand-in-hand and kissing Saudi King in the mouth -
No-bid outsourcing of military and war to friends -
Corporate welfare for outsourcing jobs overseas -
Non enforcement of already weakened regulations -
Illegal Immigration Crisis -
Social Security Crisis -
Medicare Crisis -
Bernie Madoff, Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs, Enron, WorldCom, Fannie May, Freddie Mac -
Unemployment Crisis -
Welfare Crisis -
Gulf oil spill destruction due to de-regulation
Gulf coast communities destroyed, fisheries, property value, tourism due to toxic destruction
Toxic food outbreaks
Average Household Wealth Sunk 25 %
Gas up to $4.40 per gallon

In short, destruction of our great nation.

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Permalink Reply by Killa Cain on September 6, 2010 at 2:32pm

never...simple as that. he hasnt done nothin special. we need someone who is actually gonna help us all...

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Permalink Reply by Greg on September 6, 2010 at 2:56pm

Tech N9ne for lol jk jk

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Permalink Reply by a tie a on September 6, 2010 at 3:04pm

@Herron: thank you for actually understanding the shit hole the Republicans got us in.
Only thing is that Iraqis killed is probably way larger. estimates go even over to 1 million =/

oh and btw: Voting Republican=voting to get ur Social Security fucked. if you like that, then vote for them, but hey it's ur money ur voting to get robbed

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Permalink Reply by Mark on September 6, 2010 at 5:50pm

ur social security is fucked no matter what u do or what they do. thats why they recommend everyone save for ur own future

a tie a said:

@Herron: thank you for actually understanding the shit hole the Republicans got us in.
Only thing is that Iraqis killed is probably way larger. estimates go even over to 1 million =/

oh and btw: Voting Republican=voting to get ur Social Security fucked. if you like that, then vote for them, but hey it's ur money ur voting to get robbed

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