Would you vote for Obama again?
I would, just because i wanna see this "Change" continue.
Look im not into politics or anything. But it is nice to see how far we'v come from Bush. (Both)
I mean were still at War, But "its better were over there kickn ass in there backyard, then them thinking about hoping the fince again and fighting us in ours". Quoted by my older brother In the US Army. Thinking like that, keeps me strong back home. So while there making the diffrence, its on us to make the change.
Idk, But i Pray and Hope that something big will come out of this. and im Anti' War, More like a Hippie id say. Keep the Change Going. Quoted by me
Dr. Haze
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Permalink Reply by Mr. 5280 on -
Lmao... Nah... Just don't get how one would vote for a canadate that only wanted to continue the same policies and practices that got us in this mess we're in now. But, as it goes with music, to each's own... Some people love SouljaBoy, I can't stand the guy... Lol.
Cole said:
Mr. 5280 said:You just lost friend points.... Lol.
Cole said:Well I voted for McCain soooo my vote stays the same
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Permalink Reply by World Famous Dirty 530 on -
He hasn't brought the troops home yet.
Dr. Haze said:Who the fuck is dick riding? Man grow up and look at the outside world. theres more to us as people if we stick together. I think everyone is afrade of the power we have now days. We just havent found a way to use it and stand up. But ima say this agin, if Obama can bring the troops home why not vote for him again. sorry people cant accept change like others but its how we evolve as people. were not cave men anymore.
Dollar Menunaire said:everyone got caught up with the whole "change" thing during his campaign, i thought The Boondocks made a great episode on how everything went down during the elections.
/watch?v=08S4poMGvwA
this video wouldve been better if everyone was siding with obama lol
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Permalink Reply by World Famous Dirty 530 on
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Where are these jobs he created? And when has he done anything? He is always on vacation
a tie a said:our debt was already in the shitter when Obama came in. Yes he made it worse, but he also created more jobs than Bush did in his whole presidency.
And if u think politicians don't use wars for personal gain, then all right fair enough
Ice Cold said:All that shit happened under Obamas reign so Im not sure what youre argument is. And Im going to end this debate because Im not going to have a debate with somebody who says crazy things like McCain doesnt care about the war and hes only in the war for monetary purposes.
a tie a said:Dennis Kucinich ran. i would have voted, but i was 16 then =/ and i guess he lost his chance in the debate when the ass hole mediator broght up the time when Kucinich said he saw a UFO (which i have no problem with, but people will think he's insane or some shit).
and ya, Obama is better than McCain, so i'll vote for the guy who won't fuck up stuff even more.
Ya McCain knew more about military, but as a politician he doesn't care about the war, there are incentives to continue the war.
and ya i agree the war is affecting our country majorly. it made our debt increase by billions, if not trillions, and we caused the deaths of probably over a million people, injuring more and leaving shit behind that causes mutations on children.
Not to mention the U.S lives lost.
i dunno how u see the wars but those are some of my thoughts on it
Ice Cold said:So your stance is Obama sucks and McCain sucks but just slightly more? There really werent any more choices during the election you know. And Obama may have screamed that he was pulling troops out but theyre still there. If Cain was voted in, they probably would be in the same amount of time anyways. The big difference between what they said about the war is that Cain actually served in the military, knew what he was talking about, made a plan based on what he knew, and would have implemented the plan. It is pretty obvious that Obama does not know nearly as much aboutthe military as McCain and was basing his decisions on popular thoughts instead of the facts. For me, the war is the most important thing affecting our country and I personally do not trust a commander in chief to run and give orders to our military when they have never served. I know some people may think that is stupid but I grew up around the military and its a different lifestyle and mindset.
a tie a said:McCain's policies are shit. I liked Obama better than McCain because Obama's policies appealed to me.
McCain thinks homeless people shouldn't even vote. He doesn't understand the mechanics of the economy. He wanted to stay in Iraq, knowing full well the costs of it, so he can get his rich corporate friends more money.
I can go on and on, but i'm justing saying this:
Republicans are a party consisting of MANY sellouts. they don't care about policy. They just want money from big industries and are full of crap. wake up to THAT.
and no i don't support Obama. I support REAL progressives
Cole said:Im with ya there. All my friends totally got sucked in while I voted for McCain. One day I was walking across campus by the Student Union and this guy handing out Obama flyers gave me one. I looked at it, then threw it away at the nearest trash can. The guy saw me and yelled out "racist". Like really dude? lol
Ice Cold said:But hes our savior! Hes going to save our economy, end our wars, end poverty, bridge the gap between the races, and usher us into a new world of peace! Whatever happened to those cries? Oh yeah, people woke the fuck up and realized that they should have voted for McCain like the rest of us who voted with our heads instead of listening to that idealistic crap. No hate to yall but I knew 90% of what Obama said would not even come close to happening and it killed me to see people eat it up.
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Permalink Reply by PJ on -
the only jobs that have been created have gone to illegal immigrants. lol
World Famous Dirty 530 said:Where are these jobs he created? And when has he done anything? He is always on vacation
a tie a said:our debt was already in the shitter when Obama came in. Yes he made it worse, but he also created more jobs than Bush did in his whole presidency.
And if u think politicians don't use wars for personal gain, then all right fair enough
Ice Cold said:All that shit happened under Obamas reign so Im not sure what youre argument is. And Im going to end this debate because Im not going to have a debate with somebody who says crazy things like McCain doesnt care about the war and hes only in the war for monetary purposes.
a tie a said:Dennis Kucinich ran. i would have voted, but i was 16 then =/ and i guess he lost his chance in the debate when the ass hole mediator broght up the time when Kucinich said he saw a UFO (which i have no problem with, but people will think he's insane or some shit).
and ya, Obama is better than McCain, so i'll vote for the guy who won't fuck up stuff even more.
Ya McCain knew more about military, but as a politician he doesn't care about the war, there are incentives to continue the war.
and ya i agree the war is affecting our country majorly. it made our debt increase by billions, if not trillions, and we caused the deaths of probably over a million people, injuring more and leaving shit behind that causes mutations on children.
Not to mention the U.S lives lost.
i dunno how u see the wars but those are some of my thoughts on it
Ice Cold said:So your stance is Obama sucks and McCain sucks but just slightly more? There really werent any more choices during the election you know. And Obama may have screamed that he was pulling troops out but theyre still there. If Cain was voted in, they probably would be in the same amount of time anyways. The big difference between what they said about the war is that Cain actually served in the military, knew what he was talking about, made a plan based on what he knew, and would have implemented the plan. It is pretty obvious that Obama does not know nearly as much aboutthe military as McCain and was basing his decisions on popular thoughts instead of the facts. For me, the war is the most important thing affecting our country and I personally do not trust a commander in chief to run and give orders to our military when they have never served. I know some people may think that is stupid but I grew up around the military and its a different lifestyle and mindset.
a tie a said:McCain's policies are shit. I liked Obama better than McCain because Obama's policies appealed to me.
McCain thinks homeless people shouldn't even vote. He doesn't understand the mechanics of the economy. He wanted to stay in Iraq, knowing full well the costs of it, so he can get his rich corporate friends more money.
I can go on and on, but i'm justing saying this:
Republicans are a party consisting of MANY sellouts. they don't care about policy. They just want money from big industries and are full of crap. wake up to THAT.
and no i don't support Obama. I support REAL progressives
Cole said:Im with ya there. All my friends totally got sucked in while I voted for McCain. One day I was walking across campus by the Student Union and this guy handing out Obama flyers gave me one. I looked at it, then threw it away at the nearest trash can. The guy saw me and yelled out "racist". Like really dude? lol
Ice Cold said:But hes our savior! Hes going to save our economy, end our wars, end poverty, bridge the gap between the races, and usher us into a new world of peace! Whatever happened to those cries? Oh yeah, people woke the fuck up and realized that they should have voted for McCain like the rest of us who voted with our heads instead of listening to that idealistic crap. No hate to yall but I knew 90% of what Obama said would not even come close to happening and it killed me to see people eat it up.
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Permalink Reply by Colin P. on -
ya those stimulous packages just saved our country didnt they? hahaha please. I work for a major bank and i think the bailouts were straight bullshit. Even with the money they were given, those banks still BARELY if at all loosened up their lending. Obama gave billions of dollars to 20 companies who's top 5 executives made 32 million dollars from 06 to 08, and have a ratio of 319:14 when comparing their salaries to the average employee, and then took more bonus's on top of that! And oh yeah...the unemployment rate has increased by 50% since Obama took office! Im so happy Obama is giving my money to people who really need it!
DBoy 5280 said:Definately.All these haters keep on sayin shits not workin and Obamas is makin shit worse but , i work in remodel construction, and in '08 about 78% of all construstion workers lost their jobs. Tile guys, carpet guys,painters everybody all of a sudden gone. Ive seen first hand all of these stimulus packages work not only for small companies but for homeowners as well. The gov LOANS a bank a few billion, that bank is now able to approve more people for loans which for the most part has been used by first time home buyers, who buy shit hole houses for cheap than hire general contracters to remodel these houses, who then hire sub-contracters to do the work, who then goes to best buy/grocery store/ bar/ everywhere to spend the money they just made by goin back to work. AND in the end the banks and other companies who recieved a bailout need to payback with interest all the billions of bux thrown their way. Ive never truly been left or right until these last few years. Im not even leanin al the way left but now I am completely anti-right. Cry baby shit talkin mostly rasist fags is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of the GOP.
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Permalink Reply by Colin P. on
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your not the only one with loved ones over there. just like your opinion on the situation is not the only one. I understand you want you brother home man, but there is sooo much more at stake here.
Dr. Haze said:MY BROTHER IS IN THE USA ARMY. WHY The FUck You Think im talking about this?????
Colin P. said:what does bringing troops home have to do with him being a good leader? That was already scheduled to happen before he took office. Didnt he increase troops before finally withdrawing them? In my opinion we should still be there in Iraq. The only good move he made is increasing troops in Afghanistan. If you talk to soldiers who have been there, a lot of them will say that leaving is a bad move. The generals in charge no whats best, not our so called "Commander-in-Cheif". The middle east needs to get under control, and with the Taliban running around still you know that their own governments arent gunna do it.
Just flip the script a little. If some HUGE radical extremist group was running around blowing up restraunts and cars in your home town EVERY DAY, and the government was doing nothing to stop it, wouldnt you want help? Its about establishing democracy and giving the power back to the lawful citizens of the Middle East. Is oil an incentive...HELL YA! But we need to establish a stable government over there before we can start to creat deals for their oil rights.
Dr. Haze said:Who the fuck is dick riding? Man grow up and look at the outside world. theres more to us as people if we stick together. I think everyone is afrade of the power we have now days. We just havent found a way to use it and stand up. But ima say this agin, if Obama can bring the troops home why not vote for him again. sorry people cant accept change like others but its how we evolve as people. were not cave men anymore.
Dollar Menunaire said:everyone got caught up with the whole "change" thing during his campaign, i thought The Boondocks made a great episode on how everything went down during the elections.
/watch?v=08S4poMGvwA
this video wouldve been better if everyone was siding with obama lol
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Permalink Reply by Mark on -
just remember yall obama gave the money for the bailouts and we the ppl paid for it. that where are taxes went. its also nice that we bailed out gm and chrysler. whatever happened to only the strong survive? when a business doesnt do good its supposed to fail cuz they didnt know how to manage themselves right.
Colin P. said:ya those stimulous packages just saved our country didnt they? hahaha please. I work for a major bank and i think the bailouts were straight bullshit. Even with the money they were given, those banks still BARELY if at all loosened up their lending. Obama gave billions of dollars to 20 companies who's top 5 executives made 32 million dollars from 06 to 08, and have a ratio of 319:14 when comparing their salaries to the average employee, and then took more bonus's on top of that! And oh yeah...the unemployment rate has increased by 50% since Obama took office! Im so happy Obama is giving my money to people who really need it!
DBoy 5280 said:Definately.All these haters keep on sayin shits not workin and Obamas is makin shit worse but , i work in remodel construction, and in '08 about 78% of all construstion workers lost their jobs. Tile guys, carpet guys,painters everybody all of a sudden gone. Ive seen first hand all of these stimulus packages work not only for small companies but for homeowners as well. The gov LOANS a bank a few billion, that bank is now able to approve more people for loans which for the most part has been used by first time home buyers, who buy shit hole houses for cheap than hire general contracters to remodel these houses, who then hire sub-contracters to do the work, who then goes to best buy/grocery store/ bar/ everywhere to spend the money they just made by goin back to work. AND in the end the banks and other companies who recieved a bailout need to payback with interest all the billions of bux thrown their way. Ive never truly been left or right until these last few years. Im not even leanin al the way left but now I am completely anti-right. Cry baby shit talkin mostly rasist fags is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of the GOP.
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Permalink Reply by a tie a on -
what's at stake?
Colin P. said:your not the only one with loved ones over there. just like your opinion on the situation is not the only one. I understand you want you brother home man, but there is sooo much more at stake here.
Dr. Haze said:MY BROTHER IS IN THE USA ARMY. WHY The FUck You Think im talking about this?????
Colin P. said:what does bringing troops home have to do with him being a good leader? That was already scheduled to happen before he took office. Didnt he increase troops before finally withdrawing them? In my opinion we should still be there in Iraq. The only good move he made is increasing troops in Afghanistan. If you talk to soldiers who have been there, a lot of them will say that leaving is a bad move. The generals in charge no whats best, not our so called "Commander-in-Cheif". The middle east needs to get under control, and with the Taliban running around still you know that their own governments arent gunna do it.
Just flip the script a little. If some HUGE radical extremist group was running around blowing up restraunts and cars in your home town EVERY DAY, and the government was doing nothing to stop it, wouldnt you want help? Its about establishing democracy and giving the power back to the lawful citizens of the Middle East. Is oil an incentive...HELL YA! But we need to establish a stable government over there before we can start to creat deals for their oil rights.
Dr. Haze said:Who the fuck is dick riding? Man grow up and look at the outside world. theres more to us as people if we stick together. I think everyone is afrade of the power we have now days. We just havent found a way to use it and stand up. But ima say this agin, if Obama can bring the troops home why not vote for him again. sorry people cant accept change like others but its how we evolve as people. were not cave men anymore.
Dollar Menunaire said:everyone got caught up with the whole "change" thing during his campaign, i thought The Boondocks made a great episode on how everything went down during the elections.
/watch?v=08S4poMGvwA
this video wouldve been better if everyone was siding with obama lol
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Permalink Reply by a tie a on
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i'm not going to waste time responding to that.
but to answer Dirty, i heard this off a poltical podcast yesterday. it's liberal/progressive, BUT they smash Obama/Democrats just like they do Republicans/Conservatives, so please don't give me this crap. There were reports yesterday about more jobs created, and rigt now i'm watching it live, and he's going to talk about more positive things the stimulus package had (he DID NOT believe the bill was going to work and bashed it multiple times, he's no dick rider)
watch is at THEYOUNGTURKS.COM
they are on break, but they are live weekdays 3-6pm pacific
when they have the music, and the name of the show and date, it means they r on break
PJ said:the only jobs that have been created have gone to illegal immigrants. lol
World Famous Dirty 530 said:Where are these jobs he created? And when has he done anything? He is always on vacation
a tie a said:our debt was already in the shitter when Obama came in. Yes he made it worse, but he also created more jobs than Bush did in his whole presidency.
And if u think politicians don't use wars for personal gain, then all right fair enough
Ice Cold said:All that shit happened under Obamas reign so Im not sure what youre argument is. And Im going to end this debate because Im not going to have a debate with somebody who says crazy things like McCain doesnt care about the war and hes only in the war for monetary purposes.
a tie a said:Dennis Kucinich ran. i would have voted, but i was 16 then =/ and i guess he lost his chance in the debate when the ass hole mediator broght up the time when Kucinich said he saw a UFO (which i have no problem with, but people will think he's insane or some shit).
and ya, Obama is better than McCain, so i'll vote for the guy who won't fuck up stuff even more.
Ya McCain knew more about military, but as a politician he doesn't care about the war, there are incentives to continue the war.
and ya i agree the war is affecting our country majorly. it made our debt increase by billions, if not trillions, and we caused the deaths of probably over a million people, injuring more and leaving shit behind that causes mutations on children.
Not to mention the U.S lives lost.
i dunno how u see the wars but those are some of my thoughts on it
Ice Cold said:So your stance is Obama sucks and McCain sucks but just slightly more? There really werent any more choices during the election you know. And Obama may have screamed that he was pulling troops out but theyre still there. If Cain was voted in, they probably would be in the same amount of time anyways. The big difference between what they said about the war is that Cain actually served in the military, knew what he was talking about, made a plan based on what he knew, and would have implemented the plan. It is pretty obvious that Obama does not know nearly as much aboutthe military as McCain and was basing his decisions on popular thoughts instead of the facts. For me, the war is the most important thing affecting our country and I personally do not trust a commander in chief to run and give orders to our military when they have never served. I know some people may think that is stupid but I grew up around the military and its a different lifestyle and mindset.
a tie a said:McCain's policies are shit. I liked Obama better than McCain because Obama's policies appealed to me.
McCain thinks homeless people shouldn't even vote. He doesn't understand the mechanics of the economy. He wanted to stay in Iraq, knowing full well the costs of it, so he can get his rich corporate friends more money.
I can go on and on, but i'm justing saying this:
Republicans are a party consisting of MANY sellouts. they don't care about policy. They just want money from big industries and are full of crap. wake up to THAT.
and no i don't support Obama. I support REAL progressives
Cole said:Im with ya there. All my friends totally got sucked in while I voted for McCain. One day I was walking across campus by the Student Union and this guy handing out Obama flyers gave me one. I looked at it, then threw it away at the nearest trash can. The guy saw me and yelled out "racist". Like really dude? lol
Ice Cold said:But hes our savior! Hes going to save our economy, end our wars, end poverty, bridge the gap between the races, and usher us into a new world of peace! Whatever happened to those cries? Oh yeah, people woke the fuck up and realized that they should have voted for McCain like the rest of us who voted with our heads instead of listening to that idealistic crap. No hate to yall but I knew 90% of what Obama said would not even come close to happening and it killed me to see people eat it up.
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my main concern is that the banks weren't broken down. if they are huge they bring everyone down, and i understand the argument if we didn't give banks the money we would have been 100% fucked and out of business.
another concern is that the bankers took a shit load of money, but no1 cracked down on them. EUROPE did it, why can't we?
Colin P. said:ya those stimulous packages just saved our country didnt they? hahaha please. I work for a major bank and i think the bailouts were straight bullshit. Even with the money they were given, those banks still BARELY if at all loosened up their lending. Obama gave billions of dollars to 20 companies who's top 5 executives made 32 million dollars from 06 to 08, and have a ratio of 319:14 when comparing their salaries to the average employee, and then took more bonus's on top of that! And oh yeah...the unemployment rate has increased by 50% since Obama took office! Im so happy Obama is giving my money to people who really need it!
DBoy 5280 said:Definately.All these haters keep on sayin shits not workin and Obamas is makin shit worse but , i work in remodel construction, and in '08 about 78% of all construstion workers lost their jobs. Tile guys, carpet guys,painters everybody all of a sudden gone. Ive seen first hand all of these stimulus packages work not only for small companies but for homeowners as well. The gov LOANS a bank a few billion, that bank is now able to approve more people for loans which for the most part has been used by first time home buyers, who buy shit hole houses for cheap than hire general contracters to remodel these houses, who then hire sub-contracters to do the work, who then goes to best buy/grocery store/ bar/ everywhere to spend the money they just made by goin back to work. AND in the end the banks and other companies who recieved a bailout need to payback with interest all the billions of bux thrown their way. Ive never truly been left or right until these last few years. Im not even leanin al the way left but now I am completely anti-right. Cry baby shit talkin mostly rasist fags is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of the GOP.
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Permalink Reply by boogie sauce on -
I didn't read everyones post in this thread some kid was complaining about Mccain not wanting the homeless to vote...There is estimated like 700000 to 2 million homeless people in america and over 2/3 of them have problems with mental illness or drugs or alcohol. So what if they don't vote. They are not home owners. They don't pay taxes. They are not putting any money into the economy. I am not saying ban the homeless and that no one shouldn't help them but I agree. Not to mention that only about 1/3 of the country voted for the president this term anyways. Not to mention the percentage of increase in minority voters this term as well. Howard Stern went to Harlem and asked Blacks who they were voting for and they all responded Obama. And he asked if they thought Sarah Palin was a good running mate for Vice President with Obama and they all responded "oh yeah she'll do great". I would venture to say that out of the 1/3 of the country that voted 2/5's of them are not even educated enough to vote. Obama will go down in history as one of the worst presidents of all time. He has no experience, his policies are bullshit, he is spending way more money than he should be and the only people he is giving the money to are the low end jobs that the illegal mexicans get paid under the table for and then they send it all back to Mexico. Good job obama on giving mexico the money people could have used to boost our economy back with. People praise him b/c he is a good speaker but whatever...He fucking blows. Case closed.
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