why the fuck is weed still illegal?

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Permalink Reply by ЖĭϞϬ ƦΔϟŦԃ on November 21, 2012 at 9:02pm

I was speaking about the U.S., I don't know shit about NZ policies. They've regulated smoking here in some of the states. In NY you can't smoke in any stores, bars, etc. A lot of residential housing (apartments and the like) also have regulations toward smoking indoors. The mall by me just recently made it illegal to smoke cigarettes anywhere on the grounds, so not even in your car in the parking lot. A few NYS colleges are banning smoking on campus as well. So while some states are certainly pushing to make tobacco use more and more inconvenient, the federal government will never put a ban on it simply because they make waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much money through Big Tobacco. And while I agree that cigarette smoking is fucking disgustingly unhealthy (even as a smoker myself), I still believe it infringes on rights. I know it sounds stupid to say but, I believe I have the right to do whatever the fuck I want with my body. In terms of smoking in public which leads to second hand smoke, I understand. But the idea of making tobacco illegal seems ludicrous to me.

Siikez said:

Maybe where you live. In New Zealand they plan to have them illegal by 2020. It's already illegal to smoke in in-door work places like any bar or restaurant here, the next thing they're going to roll out is making it illegal to smoke cigarettes in your car. And then by 2020 illegal full stop. They want to "ween" smokers off them by increasing the price to a completely unaffordable price, it already costs $30 to get a pouch of tobacco, and they're gradually increasing it until it reaches $100 and then illegal. So smoking will be made illegal, just maybe not were you live. NZ.. always ahead of the game v_v

King Rasta said:

Cigarettes will never be made illegal. They pretend that they're taxing tobacco in order to prevent people from smoking, but they're only doing that because they know people will still pay 12 dollars a day for a pack of cigarettes. 75% of the price in NY is strictly tax. So if you buy a $10 pack in NY, after the tax those cigarettes only cost $2.50.

I feel most "drugs" that are already legal will never become illegal. Prohibition doesn't work. Never has, never will.

Cole said:

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, plus it weeds the stupid people out /flameshieldup 

matt meyer said:

i think weed should only be legal if cigarettes are illegal.

how cigarettes haven't been outlawed yet is beyond me.

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Permalink Reply by ЖĭϞϬ ƦΔϟŦԃ on November 21, 2012 at 9:02pm

And lol @ me for debating tobacco use in a marijuana thread.

King Rasta said:

I was speaking about the U.S., I don't know shit about NZ policies. They've regulated smoking here in some of the states. In NY you can't smoke in any stores, bars, etc. A lot of residential housing (apartments and the like) also have regulations toward smoking indoors. The mall by me just recently made it illegal to smoke cigarettes anywhere on the grounds, so not even in your car in the parking lot. A few NYS colleges are banning smoking on campus as well. So while some states are certainly pushing to make tobacco use more and more inconvenient, the federal government will never put a ban on it simply because they make waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much money through Big Tobacco. And while I agree that cigarette smoking is fucking disgustingly unhealthy (even as a smoker myself), I still believe it infringes on rights. I know it sounds stupid to say but, I believe I have the right to do whatever the fuck I want with my body. In terms of smoking in public which leads to second hand smoke, I understand. But the idea of making tobacco illegal seems ludicrous to me.

Siikez said:

Maybe where you live. In New Zealand they plan to have them illegal by 2020. It's already illegal to smoke in in-door work places like any bar or restaurant here, the next thing they're going to roll out is making it illegal to smoke cigarettes in your car. And then by 2020 illegal full stop. They want to "ween" smokers off them by increasing the price to a completely unaffordable price, it already costs $30 to get a pouch of tobacco, and they're gradually increasing it until it reaches $100 and then illegal. So smoking will be made illegal, just maybe not were you live. NZ.. always ahead of the game v_v

King Rasta said:

Cigarettes will never be made illegal. They pretend that they're taxing tobacco in order to prevent people from smoking, but they're only doing that because they know people will still pay 12 dollars a day for a pack of cigarettes. 75% of the price in NY is strictly tax. So if you buy a $10 pack in NY, after the tax those cigarettes only cost $2.50.

I feel most "drugs" that are already legal will never become illegal. Prohibition doesn't work. Never has, never will.

Cole said:

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, plus it weeds the stupid people out /flameshieldup 

matt meyer said:

i think weed should only be legal if cigarettes are illegal.

how cigarettes haven't been outlawed yet is beyond me.

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Permalink Reply by ֆӄʐ ♔ on November 22, 2012 at 9:58am

I think we both understand eachother here.

Time for a magic trick!

King Rasta said:

And lol @ me for debating tobacco use in a marijuana thread.

King Rasta said:

I was speaking about the U.S., I don't know shit about NZ policies. They've regulated smoking here in some of the states. In NY you can't smoke in any stores, bars, etc. A lot of residential housing (apartments and the like) also have regulations toward smoking indoors. The mall by me just recently made it illegal to smoke cigarettes anywhere on the grounds, so not even in your car in the parking lot. A few NYS colleges are banning smoking on campus as well. So while some states are certainly pushing to make tobacco use more and more inconvenient, the federal government will never put a ban on it simply because they make waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much money through Big Tobacco. And while I agree that cigarette smoking is fucking disgustingly unhealthy (even as a smoker myself), I still believe it infringes on rights. I know it sounds stupid to say but, I believe I have the right to do whatever the fuck I want with my body. In terms of smoking in public which leads to second hand smoke, I understand. But the idea of making tobacco illegal seems ludicrous to me.

Siikez said:

Maybe where you live. In New Zealand they plan to have them illegal by 2020. It's already illegal to smoke in in-door work places like any bar or restaurant here, the next thing they're going to roll out is making it illegal to smoke cigarettes in your car. And then by 2020 illegal full stop. They want to "ween" smokers off them by increasing the price to a completely unaffordable price, it already costs $30 to get a pouch of tobacco, and they're gradually increasing it until it reaches $100 and then illegal. So smoking will be made illegal, just maybe not were you live. NZ.. always ahead of the game v_v

King Rasta said:

Cigarettes will never be made illegal. They pretend that they're taxing tobacco in order to prevent people from smoking, but they're only doing that because they know people will still pay 12 dollars a day for a pack of cigarettes. 75% of the price in NY is strictly tax. So if you buy a $10 pack in NY, after the tax those cigarettes only cost $2.50.

I feel most "drugs" that are already legal will never become illegal. Prohibition doesn't work. Never has, never will.

Cole said:

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, plus it weeds the stupid people out /flameshieldup 

matt meyer said:

i think weed should only be legal if cigarettes are illegal.

how cigarettes haven't been outlawed yet is beyond me.

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Permalink Reply by Ryan on November 22, 2012 at 11:41am

@willie murk... Plenty

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Permalink Reply by ⓉⓌⓛⓩⓩⓎ ツ on November 24, 2012 at 10:31pm

why do people even care if its illegal or not. some people are fucking dumb. people that want to smoke weed smoke it any way and if it was legal the government would tax the shit out of it, pluss it would be easier to find so the price would go down and it wouldn't be no profit from it any more.

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