There is no God
and the sooner everyone comes to terms with it, the sooner we are able to move forward. We will be able to educate our children without religion barricading the amount of knowledge a new generation of people can possess. Religious texts are filled with one-dimensional ideas and they expect followers to be obedient and nothing more. Obedience is all that religions profess, and if you are disobedient, you are damned. If life is a so-called "test" of one's faith, then how is it fair if all tests are unequal? Obviously, all tests of faith are unequal, because Jane Doe could have been born to atheist parents, and in turn, making Jane a newborn atheist, while Bill was born to two evangelical parents who worshiped God everyday, making Bill an automatic saint. These two scenarios are completely different in every way imaginable, and it would be silly for a "God" to test someone's faith in such a way. Also, the Bible does not give a particular age for the Earth. However, most Christian scholars believe the Earth to be around 8,000 years old. If anyone has ever opened a science book in their life, you would know the Earth is approximately 4.5 billion years old based on radiometric dating of some of the oldest rocks on the planet. The sad thing is is that religion still attacks science, despite of how advanced and concrete it tends to be. Another sad thing is that it is impossible to disprove that a god exists, because the theory of a god runs on an unfalsifiable hypothesis, meaning I can't falsify it no matter how hard I try, because supposedly, God is an ethereal, invisible, and untouchable being. How am I supposed to prove such a thing doesn't exist? It is the equivalent to me saying that I have an invisible, ethereal, and untouchable baby dinosaur with me at all times. No one can disprove that. My opinion is that religion was an old-fashioned form of law to keep everyone in order to achieve happiness in the "afterlife" which no one really knows anything about.
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Permalink Reply by Strychnine on -
Everything he said.
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Permalink Reply by DirtyGinger on -
As right as you are, the human race will sadly never break away from religion. They can't live thinking that we're just another species, we HAVE to be special. That's the problem with religion, it's cocky and arrogant and it provides "comfort" for these people who can't handle life.
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Permalink Reply by a tie a on -
correct.
I'm down with anyone who is religous as long as they follow some bounds of reason, but u don't need that in your life. i don't see any point in it AT ALL.
Course i'm still open minded to the existence of God. Maybe that's how i feel because you can't disprove it lol
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Permalink Reply by John Wisniewski on -
Ur an idiot there is a God you will realize that the day u end up in hell
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Permalink Reply by GawgyG on -
Agree! That's another thing that pisses me off. Yes we are the most superior beings on the planet. We're the most advanced, most intelligent, blah blah blah, but it doesn't make us divine in any fucking way. Through the process of mate selection, mutation, and natural selection (AKA evolution), we are brought to be what we are today. It's pretty clear to see, but religious people refuse to see it. They would rather lay their hands on a text written over 2000 years ago by people who were fucking Neanderthals (okay, they weren't Neanderthals, but they were pretty fucking stupid compared to people now).
Keegan Hewlett said:As right as you are, the human race will sadly never break away from religion. They can't live thinking that we're just another species, we HAVE to be special. That's the problem with religion, it's cocky and arrogant and it provides "comfort" for these people who can't handle life.
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Permalink Reply by Quemical on -
Aliens coming to Earth and altering Ancient man's DNA is a lot more Believable than 2 giant hands coming down from the clouds and making man. lol
GawgyG said:lol interesting view quemical
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Permalink Reply by a tie a on
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i dunno about most of what Ice said. BUT point #9 is the correct answer. WHO CARES WHAT OTHERS THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU BELIEVE. Fuck off and move on. simple as that. it pisses me off when people freak out about people they don't know get married coz their gay, or are outraged because a couple of Muslims spoke out against some Jews. Grow up.
but i want to say that religion IS law in some places in the world. Sharia Law is enforced in some countries, and we have morons here that don't believe in separation of church and state. Not to mention they use their religous views as excuses for their policies. Of course that doesn't mean that our laws are religous in nature, but religion does have influence in people's decisions in law
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Permalink Reply by GawgyG on
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Jane and Bill aren't born equal if Jane is born with a birth defect and dies within 7 days. Bill has an advantage over Jane, because Bill will already be taught that God is the answer to all questions, making his life so much easier, while Jane would have to jump a HUGE obstacle in order to convert to Christianity. They aren't born equally. No one is. Religions DO expect people to blindly follow, because all religions (specifically Christianity) boil down to whether you have faith. Faith is EXTREMELY dangerous, because it is an ignorant unsupported belief in something that is extremely doubtful. Christianity DOES pledge ignorance by the act of faith. Science questions religion, it doesn't attack it. Science makes all of the unknowns of the world known, while religion leaves the unknowns up to God. Religion doesn't question science, because it can't. Science is fact. Religion is faith. And honestly, the reason I'm bashing religion is because people need to learn to get over it. It's OLD news. Probably one of the best lies ever told. All the mysteries that we had before were answered with religion, now they can be answered with science. Why does the sun rise every morning? God's not responsible for it. The rotation of the Earth is. We found this out a long time ago. Another mystery solved. And it's funny that the text written in the bible was limited to the knowledge of the people of its time. If it was a truly HOLY and all knowing book, it could have at least foreshadowed some of the shit that was to happen in the future, so people could be like damn, these people knew what the hell they were talking about.
Ice Cold said:Ill address this from a Christianity point of view because (even though I am not a Christian) it is the religion I know the most about.
1. Religions do not expect their followers to blindly follow. Yes, they want them to follow basic ethics that are essentially the same as what society expects. Thats about it. You dont have to go to church, pray everyday, or anything else. All you have to do is believe in God and repent your sins.
2. Even if you break every commandment multiple times, that doesnt mean you are going to hell. If you believe in God and repent your sins, you still go to heaven.
3. Your test of faith scenarios make no sense. Jane and Bill are born equal. Doesnt matter if one is born from devout christians and the other is crack whore satanists.
4. Religion attacks science and science attacks religion. Look at shit objectively.
5. The Bible does not make an exact reference to how old the earth is and it certainly never states that it was 6,000, 7,000, or 8,000 years old.
6. Its not impossible to prove that God exists. Its difficult as hell because some people just dont accept facts and evidence but its not impossible.
7. The difference between a baby dinosaur and God is that God is not a physical entity. Example, someone says I have God in my heart, they do not believe that he is literally in there.
8. Religion is not law. It is an ethical guideline for people to live their lives by so that society can live in a civilzed manner. The stories are designed to teach a moral lession. Just like the ones from Greek, Rome, Aesop, Buddha, etc.
9. Who really gives a fuck what other people believe? If I want to teach my kids about ethics and morallity by introducing them to religion, how does that affect you? Does it effect you in any way that my mom prays before she goes to bed? Does it hurt you to listen to a prayer about people who have been hurt and killed? No, but a child who is not introduced to religion as a child is more likely to act unethically and have problems with the police as they get older. Not always but there was an actual study a couple years (and it was not done by the Vatican or some shit like that) that came to that conclusion. Who cares what people think? Ive seen a shitload of threads bashing religion on here but Ive never seen a thread bashing atheists. So who is really the cocky, arrogant, dumbasses here?
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Permalink Reply by Joey Deprey on -
GawgyG Wow, it's called faith dumb ass. How bout just shut up and don't share you're opinion anymore. If you're wondering yes I do believe in God and I'm not afraid to say it.
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Permalink Reply by Joey Deprey on
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ya and who cares??? Why would you waste you're time typing all this. This is a TECH N9NE forum. Go post that shit somewhere else.
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