The Great Debate Science Vs. the true Christ, Jesus
ZietGayiest is straight illuminati/brotherhood of satan, at work.they want you to believe that there is an Illuminati, because if you believe in the devil it gives him power, eventually they want you to try and turn on the government, yes anarchy is part of there plan/agenda. they want you to believe this zeitgeist,= belief that faith in religion is a tool used by the "higher ups" to control you and manifest destiny according to there agenda. in that movie it showed how all cultural have a mysterious Deity. but all of those cultures were cultish vulturous. tryin to create there own imaginary messiah. through there own made up ancient history, with lack of truth they say is mystery. but in fact non of them worship or have a name for A Creator,..GOD(thus everyone has fallen from power) seems like they want to believe there is a God but they don't want to call him that word.
How ever all of these different nations, (i.e Egypt, Rome, Persia, Greece) created these legendary men, to fulfill the prophecies, in order to make all, drop to the knees, an worship there kingdom, falsely, but prosperously. they all studied the constellations and "zodiacs" but never just gave it up to the Lord God. and so, all of these, "Empires" fell. and fell hard. now keep in mind the Hebrew history tells us that all of these "great kingdoms" came about, because of babylon, ..after the fall of the tower of babel, came the mad confusion of tongues, "the mysteries!" and the made up there own histories. the fact that all of them share that same date of Dec 25,(jesus was born april 6) proves that it is satan at work. in the bible satan is referred to as the morning star.. Thou the fact that separates the anti-christs from tha actual Christ is that according to Hebrew history, and prophetic scriptures state that Jesus would be and was born an a "meridian of celestial time" meaning a middle of this worlds time line. and this day was April 6, 1 bc. and these Jewish scholars have it down to the hours in which he was born. and thats the whole northern star thing the kings followed to the baby Jesus. who grew up to fulfill the prophetic hebrew faith and scriptures. God sent himself through the womb of the Virgin Mary, in order to give the world he created his one begotten son, that who ever Believe in him shall not perish but live for eternity, life after death everlasting.
Only once a man of righteousness, born exactly the way the scriptures prophesied, was he able to become the ultiment sacrifice,(every wonder why jews don't sacrifice animals anymore?) after his death, his ghost, which is Holiest of Holies. covered the world, so that you could be forgiving of your trespasses against the Lord God of Creation. once that happened the law of religion became power less. oh yeas. read that part one more gain. so in order to keep order, religion was reshaped .. why do you think it is that our nation has been the most successful?(not counting the last couple decades) we rose up in knowledge, and power like no other before us (like, ancient rome, an egypt n all them) because when we started this nation, it was under God for Christs' people. now that it's filled wit all types of religions (just like the old Babylonia) we as a people do not put our trust in god anymore, but more so in money that says it right on it. (not to be gettin in to that at all)
i believe as a christian, that every 1700-2000 years something has happened that drastically changed the way we're heading. and each one(of the four) corresponds with an Element.(earth, water, wind, fire.) I.E.?? in the beginning God created the Earth, (oh and these four changes, go creation, destruction, creation, destruction) 1700 years later he floods it with Water, 300 or so years after that is when the tower of babel falls and all are separated to language and region.(thus creating race, creed and/or ethnic diversity) 1700-2000 years after that Jesus is born, lives to die so that his Spirit can cover the world in order to save us from an eternity of hell.
K?so that was about 2000 years ago. and the only element left, in my belief, would be Fire.
alright so i'm done with this last thing, the reason i believe there were a number of twelve disciples, and kings an all that,
has to to with the horroscope ihs to a degree, but i think it's more like there are twelve types of people/personality God can create/give us when we are given life/born on this earth, it says he has set the stars in the sky so that we can keep track of the seasons and the years, and to shine on us, to give us light. and light is love so idk you figures shit out on your own, but if it's truthful it will be backed up in the bible at least three times. peace out every one thanx4 reading.
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on -
God is real. the bible is real. i will debate that till im die. i'm sorry for your loss jonathan. but were should i debate this stuff. i want the people who listen to tech to no he is but a man, as we are all, except for jesus. he is GOD was, and shall be again.
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Permalink Reply by Jonathan Fry on -
true, i just dont like see religion get trashed like this,with everybodies comments, but you have every right to post here and I dont have to read the stuff!
Your Local_Ghetto Superman said:God is real. the bible is real. i will debate that till im die. i'm sorry for your loss jonathan. but were should i debate this stuff. i want the people who listen to tech to no he is but a man, as we are all, except for jesus. he is GOD was, and shall be again.
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on
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yea me niether thats why i can't keep from coming back at these people with the truth.
like all science is, is a bunch of equations with too many variables, so scientist try to fill in the gaps with their theories. and then plug em into there equations, and if they work.. than its a fact. lol.. now i'm gonna hear it...
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Permalink Reply by a tie a on -
lol u just provided 0 evidence. way to make ur case
Your Local_Ghetto Superman said:
you are so dumb if you think there is no proof. and how the fuck do you expect me to give you 100% evidence thro this fucking website or forum you idiot. i haven't heard you state one time 100% truthful evidence that the bible is non-sence
prove me wrong, tell me that noahs ark was fake and all that data was made up, 20/20 was part of tha hoax. so they could just say they found another noahs ark, and then never talk about it ever again in the media or world of science.
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Permalink Reply by Living T on -
Exactly. Haha, I assume that's a typo.
I personally think the whole thread is trash, because you can't prove it exists and you can't prove that it doesn't.That's why it's called a belief.
Ahiggity Diggity said:
Don't you know the bible has been edited through the generations? Another thing, it is written by man so it is not precisely the word of God. The bible is contradictive as fuck along with the fact that the claims it makes do not have any evidence to support what its saying, just because you find something that you guillibly jump to the conclusion that it must be Noah's Ark, does not mean you are any more correct in your beliefs. There are thousands of things that the bible makes claims of, where are those exactly? There are thousands of religions in this world, what makes this one the correct one? As far as I'm concerned, the bible belongs on the non-fiction shelf.
I'm not going to read a book and automatically assume that it is completely true. If you do that kind of thing, then you can be tricked into believing every bullshit story out there.
Your Local_Ghetto Superman said:you are so dumb if you think there is no proof. and how the fuck do you expect me to give you 100% evidence thro this fucking website or forum you idiot. i haven't heard you state one time 100% truthful evidence that the bible is non-sence
prove me wrong, tell me that noahs ark was fake and all that data was made up, 20/20 was part of tha hoax. so they could just say they found another noahs ark, and then never talk about it ever again in the media or world of science.
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Permalink Reply by ElJefe7107 on -
People need to stop feeding this idiotic shit. I presented the evidence that the bible is false in the first page and for some reason he didn't give a good counter-arguement. Maybe because he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. It's the sign of true ignorance to continue arguements with someone who is ignorant. I think we need to let this topic die. Nobody is going to want to read a several page long response that I'd post that would shut everyone up on this topic. It doesn't prove/disprove the existence of God, but it justifies faith or dismissal of faith. This justification of faith is the best anyone can hope to achieve. If you want to talk about what justifies your subjective faith, that's a completely different issue, and it is one that I'm more than happy to discuss
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on
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i don't care to argue, what ever it is you're saying about the "first page" what you said was somethin about the first four days and physics? but it wasn't very accurate. so instead of arguing i wrote down what is said and what i understand of the creation of the sun moon earth and stars.. i don't disagree with what you said about the earth being formed out of comet dust. it says, before God Created "earth, it was with out shape".sooooo, in the very beginning it was just universe dust, water vapor and the spirit of God. the first light was the birth of all creation, the second was the sun and thus the moon, making life on the planet able to grow.
the ferament or whatever, means "to stretch out" and it says it was a water ozone layer, like a green house.
there is no evidence to present to you while i am sitting here at home. there is no evidence that can disprove the bible. please grab a bible and try. but you don't have a open mind to believe in a Ultimate Creation Suprem Being.?
point out the contradictions? you can call my faith, me being gullible. but tell me why all other cultures/religions have no God of creation or origin of life, except Hebrew. and all have perished. tell me how was moses able to per-sway the pharaoh to let all of his slaves run off, free. why has every "great empire," been wiped out? is it coincidence that they weren't of faith?
the scriptures contain prophetic odds that defy all probability. and there is evidence that backs the bible. all over. from native american legend to the seashell fossils found on mount Everest.
Jesus is the one true son of our Lord God, the God of Creation. an hebrew christ.
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on
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In the begining(of time) God, created the heaven(space) the earth.(mass) he said let there be light, and the light was.(hebrew belife says the light translates to jesus) there space time and matter. isn't that like the fundementals of sci or some shit like that ??? i just watched a "secular program" with morgan freeman that said scitetist now say the before the "big bang" the universe started out of nothing and all of a sudden the first super nova was born (the light, aka jesus).
Now when this first light exploded into exsistance, or what ever happend i can't even fatem, it gave life to a all creation. (God.) now that was all in the first day. and in that da; there was no sun or moon or stars yet so therefore we arennot able to messer, what he did in that first day, in a 24 hour cycle if ther arent any hours(frome the sun an moon) and there arent even stars yet but i'll wait for that, On the second day, he said let there be a firmament(somethin streached out hebrew translation) in the midst of the waters, and it shall divide the waters one above and one below.thus creating an ozone layer/canapoe of water, like if the clouds were liquid and held in place to be more effective aginst radiation an shit, kinda like a green house. and that was the second day the third day he seperated the the water from the land and "gathered them into one place"(pangia) then God said bring forth grass and herb that yields seeds, and all trees and fruit all acordding to there kinds.(no innerspiecis breeding) the fact that apples can't evolve into grapes is this divine authority. and thats the third day. Here comes the fourth day, the sun and moon and stars. planets, i believe, were created when he made the earth, they just didn't shine yet. so lets clear this up he created mass, in the first amount of time, and he shaped not only the earth but the ocean and the atmosphere, plus planted all the seeding for life, all before he created the sun.the bible is the most accurate historical document known to man. ask any scientist or teacher.
hope it doesn't take an lifetime, believe, cuz if the bible is right the Earth is the closest to heaven you will get. but the closest to hell i'll get.
but if your right, oh well...
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Permalink Reply by a tie a on
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there is also no evidence to disprove the existence of shape shifting humans and Zeus
Your Local_Ghetto Superman said:
i don't care to argue, what ever it is you're saying about the "first page" what you said was somethin about the first four days and physics? but it wasn't very accurate. so instead of arguing i wrote down what is said and what i understand of the creation of the sun moon earth and stars.. i don't disagree with what you said about the earth being formed out of comet dust. it says, before God Created "earth, it was with out shape".sooooo, in the very beginning it was just universe dust, water vapor and the spirit of God. the first light was the birth of all creation, the second was the sun and thus the moon, making life on the planet able to grow.
the ferament or whatever, means "to stretch out" and it says it was a water ozone layer, like a green house.
there is no evidence to present to you while i am sitting here at home. there is no evidence that can disprove the bible. please grab a bible and try. but you don't have a open mind to believe in a Ultimate Creation Suprem Being.?
point out the contradictions? you can call my faith, me being gullible. but tell me why all other cultures/religions have no God of creation or origin of life, except Hebrew. and all have perished. tell me how was moses able to per-sway the pharaoh to let all of his slaves run off, free. why has every "great empire," been wiped out? is it coincidence that they weren't of faith?
the scriptures contain prophetic odds that defy all probability. and there is evidence that backs the bible. all over. from native american legend to the seashell fossils found on mount Everest.
Jesus is the one true son of our Lord God, the God of Creation. an hebrew christ.
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Permalink Reply by Cody Rowan on -
how about this.
Jesus was actually a symbol used for a mushroom cult during the time who was being pushed by the Romans, Jewish people, and such. The mushroom grows without a seed, so people believed it was from the rain, and the rain was believed to be the semen from the god in the sky who would rain down and fertilize the land, which in turn grew the amanita mushroom which when starts to grow looks like the male organ so it was called the "son of god" or "birth without seed" it would then grow its cap, which at one point resembles the "T" shape Jesus makes on the cross. The thorns he has are these white things that grow on top of the mushroom. the holy grail that is always brought up, is actually when the mushroom starts to curl over itself and forms a bowl that rain would gather in and people would drink giving them the hallucinations and the ultimate experience that would give the feeling of immortality. After the Romans rid of the known people in the cult they took the stories created by the cult to hide their dying religion which was originally told orally. The Romans would persecute anyone following this cult, so they had to hide in some way that if read right, and deciphered people would discover the ancient cult that discovered the use of mushroom and the possibility of discovering something bigger than us.
John 6:53-6 reads, “Then Jesus said unto them, Verily verily I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh ismeat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.”
“This is saying pretty clearly that the eating and drinking is physical. My body is flesh indeed, and my blood is drink indeed, and the added statement that when you eat, it is inside of you leaves little room for debate that this is a substance, not a phantom symbol alone. For those who choose to debate this I ask that they show me their substance because according to Jesus' words unless you eat and drink of ‘It’ you have no life in you. By the way, do I really need to mention that this is not some strange reference to Cannibalism? I sure hope not, if you still think this, read on. Somewhere, some of this must convince you that he is not saying to take a bite out of his arm, or any other piece of his actual anatomy … In my opinion, the magical act of ‘Trans-Substantiation’ has no merit. The statement that Jesus makes ‘Unless you eat and drink you have no life in you’ would seem to condemn the replacement of whatever the real thing is with a placebo (substitute).” -James Arthur, “Mushrooms and Mankind” (29-30)
for people wondering, check out "The sacred mushroom and the Cross" by John Allegro, Oxford graduate and world’s leading philologist. he was commissioned to translate the Qumran Dead Sea Scrolls. But after his book “The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross” released and he died, the Catholic Church quickly bought the copyright and buried it.
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on
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shape shifting humans and Zues= the fallin angels, aka aliens, aka the devil and his legion.
thats kinda like magic. if magic wasn't real then why would God tell his people not to associate with or in magic. alot of witches and wizards have used some ancient Hebrew texts to summon spirits/angels; just like there is black magic there are also many other colors including white.
a tie a said:there is also no evidence to disprove the existence of shape shifting humans and Zeus
Your Local_Ghetto Superman said:
i don't care to argue, what ever it is you're saying about the "first page" what you said was somethin about the first four days and physics? but it wasn't very accurate. so instead of arguing i wrote down what is said and what i understand of the creation of the sun moon earth and stars.. i don't disagree with what you said about the earth being formed out of comet dust. it says, before God Created "earth, it was with out shape".sooooo, in the very beginning it was just universe dust, water vapor and the spirit of God. the first light was the birth of all creation, the second was the sun and thus the moon, making life on the planet able to grow.
the ferament or whatever, means "to stretch out" and it says it was a water ozone layer, like a green house.
there is no evidence to present to you while i am sitting here at home. there is no evidence that can disprove the bible. please grab a bible and try. but you don't have a open mind to believe in a Ultimate Creation Suprem Being.?
point out the contradictions? you can call my faith, me being gullible. but tell me why all other cultures/religions have no God of creation or origin of life, except Hebrew. and all have perished. tell me how was moses able to per-sway the pharaoh to let all of his slaves run off, free. why has every "great empire," been wiped out? is it coincidence that they weren't of faith?
the scriptures contain prophetic odds that defy all probability. and there is evidence that backs the bible. all over. from native american legend to the seashell fossils found on mount Everest.
Jesus is the one true son of our Lord God, the God of Creation. an hebrew christ.
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