The Great Debate Science Vs. the true Christ, Jesus
ZietGayiest is straight illuminati/brotherhood of satan, at work.they want you to believe that there is an Illuminati, because if you believe in the devil it gives him power, eventually they want you to try and turn on the government, yes anarchy is part of there plan/agenda. they want you to believe this zeitgeist,= belief that faith in religion is a tool used by the "higher ups" to control you and manifest destiny according to there agenda. in that movie it showed how all cultural have a mysterious Deity. but all of those cultures were cultish vulturous. tryin to create there own imaginary messiah. through there own made up ancient history, with lack of truth they say is mystery. but in fact non of them worship or have a name for A Creator,..GOD(thus everyone has fallen from power) seems like they want to believe there is a God but they don't want to call him that word.
How ever all of these different nations, (i.e Egypt, Rome, Persia, Greece) created these legendary men, to fulfill the prophecies, in order to make all, drop to the knees, an worship there kingdom, falsely, but prosperously. they all studied the constellations and "zodiacs" but never just gave it up to the Lord God. and so, all of these, "Empires" fell. and fell hard. now keep in mind the Hebrew history tells us that all of these "great kingdoms" came about, because of babylon, ..after the fall of the tower of babel, came the mad confusion of tongues, "the mysteries!" and the made up there own histories. the fact that all of them share that same date of Dec 25,(jesus was born april 6) proves that it is satan at work. in the bible satan is referred to as the morning star.. Thou the fact that separates the anti-christs from tha actual Christ is that according to Hebrew history, and prophetic scriptures state that Jesus would be and was born an a "meridian of celestial time" meaning a middle of this worlds time line. and this day was April 6, 1 bc. and these Jewish scholars have it down to the hours in which he was born. and thats the whole northern star thing the kings followed to the baby Jesus. who grew up to fulfill the prophetic hebrew faith and scriptures. God sent himself through the womb of the Virgin Mary, in order to give the world he created his one begotten son, that who ever Believe in him shall not perish but live for eternity, life after death everlasting.
Only once a man of righteousness, born exactly the way the scriptures prophesied, was he able to become the ultiment sacrifice,(every wonder why jews don't sacrifice animals anymore?) after his death, his ghost, which is Holiest of Holies. covered the world, so that you could be forgiving of your trespasses against the Lord God of Creation. once that happened the law of religion became power less. oh yeas. read that part one more gain. so in order to keep order, religion was reshaped .. why do you think it is that our nation has been the most successful?(not counting the last couple decades) we rose up in knowledge, and power like no other before us (like, ancient rome, an egypt n all them) because when we started this nation, it was under God for Christs' people. now that it's filled wit all types of religions (just like the old Babylonia) we as a people do not put our trust in god anymore, but more so in money that says it right on it. (not to be gettin in to that at all)
i believe as a christian, that every 1700-2000 years something has happened that drastically changed the way we're heading. and each one(of the four) corresponds with an Element.(earth, water, wind, fire.) I.E.?? in the beginning God created the Earth, (oh and these four changes, go creation, destruction, creation, destruction) 1700 years later he floods it with Water, 300 or so years after that is when the tower of babel falls and all are separated to language and region.(thus creating race, creed and/or ethnic diversity) 1700-2000 years after that Jesus is born, lives to die so that his Spirit can cover the world in order to save us from an eternity of hell.
K?so that was about 2000 years ago. and the only element left, in my belief, would be Fire.
alright so i'm done with this last thing, the reason i believe there were a number of twelve disciples, and kings an all that,
has to to with the horroscope ihs to a degree, but i think it's more like there are twelve types of people/personality God can create/give us when we are given life/born on this earth, it says he has set the stars in the sky so that we can keep track of the seasons and the years, and to shine on us, to give us light. and light is love so idk you figures shit out on your own, but if it's truthful it will be backed up in the bible at least three times. peace out every one thanx4 reading.
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Permalink Reply by Justin916 on -
LOL YES!
ElJefe7107 said:I'll easily discredit the bible in the first page. First off, the bible claims that God created the light and the earth, then two days later he created the sun... um the physics just doesn't work that way. Secondly, he created a firmament to hold the sky and dotted the stars on it. It cannot metaphorically mean that he created space because the same word is used many times with the root that means "to stamp out" (specifically with metal). Basically the writers of antiquity known as J and E, whose combined stories could not be the divine revelation of an all-knowing scientifically-prudent god, counts as a mythology that has the same truth merit as any Near Eastern mythologies. This is the first page only.
More specifically, I don't believe in a Sado-masochistic being who created us imperfect, demands us to be perfect, punishes us if we don't obey, and does all this because he "loves us". Sounds a little bit like political propaganda if you ask me. If you can give me a reason to believe in a being that sacrificed his own son unnecessarily, then I'll begin to think you may have a little bit of "genius" in you. Oh, don't try and bombard me with fire and brimstone bullshit. I'm talking justifiable reasons. If you'd like to know what's justifiable, I'll give you a hint: the bible (unless you can give me specific reasons why it's more than any other work of antiquity), extraoridanry emotions you feel when you pray(I get the same feelings when I listen to Tool), and you know because God told you doesn't count.
I don't mind you having your faith, but if you want advice, focus on orthopraxy. If you focus on orthodoxy, which is what you are doing by challenging the truth claims of the bible, you will be sadly disappointed when you find out that the priest has been feeding you speculative bull shit your whole life. I'll assert that there isn't one good reason to believe in religion beside hedonism. You can believe in what you believe in, but your right to swing your arm ends at my nose.
Peace
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on -
why she would be proud of me spreading the truth. and the good news, you will be judged by The Creator. make no doubt about that. that fact that you dont belive makes me sad for yours and you.
CJsiccness said:
i feel sorry for your mother
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on
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first of all, Yes in the begining(of time) God, created the heaven(space) the earth.(mass) he said let there be light, and the light was.(hebrew belife says the light translates to jesus) there space time and matter. isn't that like the fundementals of sci or some shit like that ??? i just watched a "secular program" with morgan freeman that said scitetist now say the before the "big bang" the universe started out of nothing and all of a sudden the first super nova was born (the light, aka jesus).
Now when this first light exploded into exsistance, or what ever happend i can't even fatem, it gave life to a all creation. (God.) now that was all in the first day. and in that da; there was no sun or moon or stars yet so therefore we arennot able to messer, what he did in that first day, in a 24 hour cycle if ther arent any hours(frome the sun an moon) and there arent even stars yet but i'll wait for that, On the second day, he said let there be a firmament(somethin streached out hebrew translation) in the midst of the waters, and it shall divide the waters one above and one below.thus creating an ozone layer/canapoe of water, like if the clouds were liquid and held in place to be more effective aginst radiation an shit, kinda like a green house. and that was the second day the third day he seperated the the water from the land and "gathered them into one place"(pangia) then God said bring forth grass and herb that yields seeds, and all trees and fruit all acordding to there kinds.(no innerspiecis breeding) the fact that apples can't evolve into grapes is this divine authority. and thats the third day. Here comes the fourth day, the sun and moon and stars. planets, i believe, were created when he made the earth, they just didn't shine yet. so lets clear this up he created mass, in the first amount of time, and he shaped not only the earth but the ocean and the atmosphere, plus planted all the seeding for life, all before he created the sun and the moon which is what we messer days with, so its safe to say, our comprehension of days and hours were not the same in those first four days.
secondly, he did make us and this entire universe perfectly. to the T. the sun and the moon are and have been in perfect harmony and rate since the begaining of time, this is too perfect to have just "happened". now i don't argue that politics and religion don't use, and twist the truth of the bible to turn a dollar, and or controll the masses. i think the usa does that every where and anytime they can. but God did send himself to earth through a child named jesus so that he could grow and teach the way of the Lord God, by walking the way he did, without sin. so that when his innocent blood would be spilled his holy spirit could come on to the world and give all sinners a chance of redemtion through grace and behavior changes, the new testement teaches that once this happened the law of religion no longer applies, you just have to live like you know jesus is right next to you. because he is. p.s. i know i repeated myself.
ElJefe7107 said:
I'll easily discredit the bible in the first page. First off, the bible claims that God created the light and the earth, then two days later he created the sun... um the physics just doesn't work that way. Secondly, he created a firmament to hold the sky and dotted the stars on it. It cannot metaphorically mean that he created space because the same word is used many times with the root that means "to stamp out" (specifically with metal). Basically the writers of antiquity known as J and E, whose combined stories could not be the divine revelation of an all-knowing scientifically-prudent god, counts as a mythology that has the same truth merit as any Near Eastern mythologies. This is the first page only.
More specifically, I don't believe in a Sado-masochistic being who created us imperfect, demands us to be perfect, punishes us if we don't obey, and does all this because he "loves us". Sounds a little bit like political propaganda if you ask me. If you can give me a reason to believe in a being that sacrificed his own son unnecessarily, then I'll begin to think you may have a little bit of "genius" in you. Oh, don't try and bombard me with fire and brimstone bullshit. I'm talking justifiable reasons. If you'd like to know what's justifiable, I'll give you a hint: the bible (unless you can give me specific reasons why it's more than any other work of antiquity), extraoridanry emotions you feel when you pray(I get the same feelings when I listen to Tool), and you know because God told you doesn't count.
I don't mind you having your faith, but if you want advice, focus on orthopraxy. If you focus on orthodoxy, which is what you are doing by challenging the truth claims of the bible, you will be sadly disappointed when you find out that the priest has been feeding you speculative bull shit your whole life. I'll assert that there isn't one good reason to believe in religion beside hedonism. You can believe in what you believe in, but your right to swing your arm ends at my nose.
Peace
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Permalink Reply by CJsiccness on -
shit-4-brains
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on
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is that what your deal is, a ha that makes since.
CJsiccness said:
shit-4-brains
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Permalink Reply by a tie a on -
Satan is an all loving ruler of the world who loves to allow people to go to heaven by sinning
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on
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theres a blue bird on my shoulder can i kill it,
satan is selfish he don't give a fuck about you, neither does lust. in fact he and the demons despise humans because god created us and they are to bow to us. but they were cast out of heaven so they hate that we can choose to go by the life we lead throu jesus' sacrifice
a tie a said:
Satan is an all loving ruler of the world who loves to allow people to go to heaven by sinning
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on
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thats because you intoxicated. watch the i need a doctor video, by dre and eminem. try to see/hear metaphors, thats the best thing to do when your fuckered up.
Cflo said:
Yea I'm hella fucked up right now and that shit still ain't interesting
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Permalink Reply by sam on -
baptits, catholics, evangelicals, and others believe in god. they have slightly different beliefs. they all can't b right. if there is any truth to them then all but one must be wrong. it makes no sense, so which one is right?? let me guess...yours
Your Local_Ghetto Superman said:thats because you intoxicated. watch the i need a doctor video, by dre and eminem. try to see/hear metaphors, thats the best thing to do when your fuckered up.
Cflo said:Yea I'm hella fucked up right now and that shit still ain't interesting
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Permalink Reply by Ricky Schroder on -
Jesus...I think your pretty close to a novel here
Your Local_Ghetto Superman said:first of all, Yes in the begining(of time) God, created the heaven(space) the earth.(mass) he said let there be light, and the light was.(hebrew belife says the light translates to jesus) there space time and matter. isn't that like the fundementals of sci or some shit like that ??? i just watched a "secular program" with morgan freeman that said scitetist now say the before the "big bang" the universe started out of nothing and all of a sudden the first super nova was born (the light, aka jesus).
Now when this first light exploded into exsistance, or what ever happend i can't even fatem, it gave life to a all creation. (God.) now that was all in the first day. and in that da; there was no sun or moon or stars yet so therefore we arennot able to messer, what he did in that first day, in a 24 hour cycle if ther arent any hours(frome the sun an moon) and there arent even stars yet but i'll wait for that, On the second day, he said let there be a firmament(somethin streached out hebrew translation) in the midst of the waters, and it shall divide the waters one above and one below.thus creating an ozone layer/canapoe of water, like if the clouds were liquid and held in place to be more effective aginst radiation an shit, kinda like a green house. and that was the second day the third day he seperated the the water from the land and "gathered them into one place"(pangia) then God said bring forth grass and herb that yields seeds, and all trees and fruit all acordding to there kinds.(no innerspiecis breeding) the fact that apples can't evolve into grapes is this divine authority. and thats the third day. Here comes the fourth day, the sun and moon and stars. planets, i believe, were created when he made the earth, they just didn't shine yet. so lets clear this up he created mass, in the first amount of time, and he shaped not only the earth but the ocean and the atmosphere, plus planted all the seeding for life, all before he created the sun and the moon which is what we messer days with, so its safe to say, our comprehension of days and hours were not the same in those first four days.
secondly, he did make us and this entire universe perfectly. to the T. the sun and the moon are and have been in perfect harmony and rate since the begaining of time, this is too perfect to have just "happened". now i don't argue that politics and religion don't use, and twist the truth of the bible to turn a dollar, and or controll the masses. i think the usa does that every where and anytime they can. but God did send himself to earth through a child named jesus so that he could grow and teach the way of the Lord God, by walking the way he did, without sin. so that when his innocent blood would be spilled his holy spirit could come on to the world and give all sinners a chance of redemtion through grace and behavior changes, the new testement teaches that once this happened the law of religion no longer applies, you just have to live like you know jesus is right next to you. because he is. p.s. i know i repeated myself.
ElJefe7107 said:
I'll easily discredit the bible in the first page. First off, the bible claims that God created the light and the earth, then two days later he created the sun... um the physics just doesn't work that way. Secondly, he created a firmament to hold the sky and dotted the stars on it. It cannot metaphorically mean that he created space because the same word is used many times with the root that means "to stamp out" (specifically with metal). Basically the writers of antiquity known as J and E, whose combined stories could not be the divine revelation of an all-knowing scientifically-prudent god, counts as a mythology that has the same truth merit as any Near Eastern mythologies. This is the first page only.
More specifically, I don't believe in a Sado-masochistic being who created us imperfect, demands us to be perfect, punishes us if we don't obey, and does all this because he "loves us". Sounds a little bit like political propaganda if you ask me. If you can give me a reason to believe in a being that sacrificed his own son unnecessarily, then I'll begin to think you may have a little bit of "genius" in you. Oh, don't try and bombard me with fire and brimstone bullshit. I'm talking justifiable reasons. If you'd like to know what's justifiable, I'll give you a hint: the bible (unless you can give me specific reasons why it's more than any other work of antiquity), extraoridanry emotions you feel when you pray(I get the same feelings when I listen to Tool), and you know because God told you doesn't count.
I don't mind you having your faith, but if you want advice, focus on orthopraxy. If you focus on orthodoxy, which is what you are doing by challenging the truth claims of the bible, you will be sadly disappointed when you find out that the priest has been feeding you speculative bull shit your whole life. I'll assert that there isn't one good reason to believe in religion beside hedonism. You can believe in what you believe in, but your right to swing your arm ends at my nose.
Peace
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