The Great Debate Science Vs. the true Christ, Jesus
ZietGayiest is straight illuminati/brotherhood of satan, at work.they want you to believe that there is an Illuminati, because if you believe in the devil it gives him power, eventually they want you to try and turn on the government, yes anarchy is part of there plan/agenda. they want you to believe this zeitgeist,= belief that faith in religion is a tool used by the "higher ups" to control you and manifest destiny according to there agenda. in that movie it showed how all cultural have a mysterious Deity. but all of those cultures were cultish vulturous. tryin to create there own imaginary messiah. through there own made up ancient history, with lack of truth they say is mystery. but in fact non of them worship or have a name for A Creator,..GOD(thus everyone has fallen from power) seems like they want to believe there is a God but they don't want to call him that word.
How ever all of these different nations, (i.e Egypt, Rome, Persia, Greece) created these legendary men, to fulfill the prophecies, in order to make all, drop to the knees, an worship there kingdom, falsely, but prosperously. they all studied the constellations and "zodiacs" but never just gave it up to the Lord God. and so, all of these, "Empires" fell. and fell hard. now keep in mind the Hebrew history tells us that all of these "great kingdoms" came about, because of babylon, ..after the fall of the tower of babel, came the mad confusion of tongues, "the mysteries!" and the made up there own histories. the fact that all of them share that same date of Dec 25,(jesus was born april 6) proves that it is satan at work. in the bible satan is referred to as the morning star.. Thou the fact that separates the anti-christs from tha actual Christ is that according to Hebrew history, and prophetic scriptures state that Jesus would be and was born an a "meridian of celestial time" meaning a middle of this worlds time line. and this day was April 6, 1 bc. and these Jewish scholars have it down to the hours in which he was born. and thats the whole northern star thing the kings followed to the baby Jesus. who grew up to fulfill the prophetic hebrew faith and scriptures. God sent himself through the womb of the Virgin Mary, in order to give the world he created his one begotten son, that who ever Believe in him shall not perish but live for eternity, life after death everlasting.
Only once a man of righteousness, born exactly the way the scriptures prophesied, was he able to become the ultiment sacrifice,(every wonder why jews don't sacrifice animals anymore?) after his death, his ghost, which is Holiest of Holies. covered the world, so that you could be forgiving of your trespasses against the Lord God of Creation. once that happened the law of religion became power less. oh yeas. read that part one more gain. so in order to keep order, religion was reshaped .. why do you think it is that our nation has been the most successful?(not counting the last couple decades) we rose up in knowledge, and power like no other before us (like, ancient rome, an egypt n all them) because when we started this nation, it was under God for Christs' people. now that it's filled wit all types of religions (just like the old Babylonia) we as a people do not put our trust in god anymore, but more so in money that says it right on it. (not to be gettin in to that at all)
i believe as a christian, that every 1700-2000 years something has happened that drastically changed the way we're heading. and each one(of the four) corresponds with an Element.(earth, water, wind, fire.) I.E.?? in the beginning God created the Earth, (oh and these four changes, go creation, destruction, creation, destruction) 1700 years later he floods it with Water, 300 or so years after that is when the tower of babel falls and all are separated to language and region.(thus creating race, creed and/or ethnic diversity) 1700-2000 years after that Jesus is born, lives to die so that his Spirit can cover the world in order to save us from an eternity of hell.
K?so that was about 2000 years ago. and the only element left, in my belief, would be Fire.
alright so i'm done with this last thing, the reason i believe there were a number of twelve disciples, and kings an all that,
has to to with the horroscope ihs to a degree, but i think it's more like there are twelve types of people/personality God can create/give us when we are given life/born on this earth, it says he has set the stars in the sky so that we can keep track of the seasons and the years, and to shine on us, to give us light. and light is love so idk you figures shit out on your own, but if it's truthful it will be backed up in the bible at least three times. peace out every one thanx4 reading.
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Permalink Reply by Johnny Pree on -
I cant respond to this because I cant spell out the sound of a fart....
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on -
what the fukc.=?did you eat some good cid?
however, there is more to his birth, than people know, thur are prophesies of, before, during, and after his life; that people aren't aware of.defying odds unlike any other. the bible is way too hard and complex ta just "pick up" even read once, and understand it. but, to all who do.... you shall receive blessings, unlike the guy who wrote about the mushroom shit.=(JOHN 6:47 -59
"I assure you, anyone who believes in me already has eternal life.-Yes I am the bread of life! -Your ancestors ate manna in the wilderness, but they all died.-However, the bread from heaven gives eternal life to everyone who eats it.-I am the living bread that came down out of heaven. Anyone who eats this bread will live forever; this bread is my flesh. Offered so the world may live." then the people started arguing with each other about what he meant. "how can this man give us hes flesh to eat?" Then Jesus said unto them, "I assuredly say unto you, Unless ye eat the flesh of the son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no eternal life within you. but Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is indeed the true food, and my blood is the true drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, remain in me, and I in him.-I live by the power of the living father who sent me in the same way, those who partake of me will live because of me. -I am the true bread from heaven. Anyone who eats this bread will live forever and not die as you ancestors did, even though the ate the manna.”- he said these thinks while he as teaching in the synagoge in Capernaum.
Cody Rowan said:
how about this.
Jesus was actually a symbol used for a mushroom cult during the time who was being pushed by the Romans, Jewish people, and such. The mushroom grows without a seed, so people believed it was from the rain, and the rain was believed to be the semen from the god in the sky who would rain down and fertilize the land, which in turn grew the amanita mushroom which when starts to grow looks like the male organ so it was called the "son of god" or "birth without seed" it would then grow its cap, which at one point resembles the "T" shape Jesus makes on the cross. The thorns he has are these white things that grow on top of the mushroom. the holy grail that is always brought up, is actually when the mushroom starts to curl over itself and forms a bowl that rain would gather in and people would drink giving them the hallucinations and the ultimate experience that would give the feeling of immortality. After the Romans rid of the known people in the cult they took the stories created by the cult to hide their dying religion which was originally told orally. The Romans would persecute anyone following this cult, so they had to hide in some way that if read right, and deciphered people would discover the ancient cult that discovered the use of mushroom and the possibility of discovering something bigger than us.
John 6:53-6 reads, “Then Jesus said unto them, Verily verily I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh ismeat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.”
“This is saying pretty clearly that the eating and drinking is physical. My body is flesh indeed, and my blood is drink indeed, and the added statement that when you eat, it is inside of you leaves little room for debate that this is a substance, not a phantom symbol alone. For those who choose to debate this I ask that they show me their substance because according to Jesus' words unless you eat and drink of ‘It’ you have no life in you. By the way, do I really need to mention that this is not some strange reference to Cannibalism? I sure hope not, if you still think this, read on. Somewhere, some of this must convince you that he is not saying to take a bite out of his arm, or any other piece of his actual anatomy … In my opinion, the magical act of ‘Trans-Substantiation’ has no merit. The statement that Jesus makes ‘Unless you eat and drink you have no life in you’ would seem to condemn the replacement of whatever the real thing is with a placebo (substitute).” -James Arthur, “Mushrooms and Mankind” (29-30)
for people wondering, check out "The sacred mushroom and the Cross" by John Allegro, Oxford graduate and world’s leading philologist. he was commissioned to translate the Qumran Dead Sea Scrolls. But after his book “The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross” released and he died, the Catholic Church quickly bought the copyright and buried it.
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Permalink Reply by Cody Rowan on -
ok lets keep goin.
"I assure you, anyone who believes in me already has eternal life.-Yes I am the bread of life! -Your ancestors ate manna in the wilderness, but they all died.-However, the bread from heaven gives eternal life to everyone who eats it.-I am the living bread that came down out of heaven. Anyone who eats this bread will live forever; this bread is my flesh. Offered so the world may live."
if this was written after the death of jesus in the new testament whose not to say it was created to turn people off of the mushrooms? That line obviously can not mean literal bread, and if you want to take Jesus saying eat me as literal cannibalism.....woah.
Exodus 16:14 reads, “And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground.” Exodus 16:20 continues, “…some of them left of it till the morning, and it bred worms, and stank.”
And the idea of bread and wine turning into the body and blood of Christ wasn't even really used until sometime after 1000 A.D. and was made a law by the church which granted priests the ability to say some words and magically transform the bread and wine into the body and blood. manna is yet to this day truly deciphered, but Muhammad said "truffles are 'manna' which Allah, sent to the people of Israel through Musa (Moses), and its juice is a medicine for the eyes."
using common sense, they were trippin.
exodus 16:4 says god will rain bread from the heavens and the people would gather it, except that this bread was small circles.
So to say that anything that was written after Christs death could be altered to get rid of the thought of what was actually happening and trying to make everything far more to the left then the simple idea that people were trippin out on the seedless son of god "the mushroom" which god caused by rain.
I am not a complete believer in anything nor have read everything, but imagine if this is the reality of it and we have been doing the wrong thing the entire time to reach enlightenment. People without open minds are stuck in the crowd following that which has been around longer than them. If you follow the moral aspects of the bible, or any religion for the most part it can lead to a better life. But to take it out of context without questioning the origins of words used at the time we become lost in translation and stuck believing in something that which is not proven.
No one on this planet knows what comes after death, it is the one ultimate goal and religion is a basis that has great influence on peoples life who wants to reach that goal, so therefore if you tell people how to get to the after life and be in "heaven" you give them the tools to get there which we should all logically know anyways.
Your Local_Ghetto Superman said:what the fukc.=?did you eat some good cid?
however, there is more to his birth, than people know, thur are prophesies of, before, during, and after his life; that people aren't aware of.defying odds unlike any other. the bible is way too hard and complex ta just "pick up" even read once, and understand it. but, to all who do.... you shall receive blessings, unlike the guy who wrote about the mushroom shit.=(JOHN 6:47 -59
"I assure you, anyone who believes in me already has eternal life.-Yes I am the bread of life! -Your ancestors ate manna in the wilderness, but they all died.-However, the bread from heaven gives eternal life to everyone who eats it.-I am the living bread that came down out of heaven. Anyone who eats this bread will live forever; this bread is my flesh. Offered so the world may live." then the people started arguing with each other about what he meant. "how can this man give us hes flesh to eat?" Then Jesus said unto them, "I assuredly say unto you, Unless ye eat the flesh of the son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no eternal life within you. but Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is indeed the true food, and my blood is the true drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, remain in me, and I in him.-I live by the power of the living father who sent me in the same way, those who partake of me will live because of me. -I am the true bread from heaven. Anyone who eats this bread will live forever and not die as you ancestors did, even though the ate the manna.”- he said these thinks while he as teaching in the synagoge in Capernaum.
Cody Rowan said:
how about this.
Jesus was actually a symbol used for a mushroom cult during the time who was being pushed by the Romans, Jewish people, and such. The mushroom grows without a seed, so people believed it was from the rain, and the rain was believed to be the semen from the god in the sky who would rain down and fertilize the land, which in turn grew the amanita mushroom which when starts to grow looks like the male organ so it was called the "son of god" or "birth without seed" it would then grow its cap, which at one point resembles the "T" shape Jesus makes on the cross. The thorns he has are these white things that grow on top of the mushroom. the holy grail that is always brought up, is actually when the mushroom starts to curl over itself and forms a bowl that rain would gather in and people would drink giving them the hallucinations and the ultimate experience that would give the feeling of immortality. After the Romans rid of the known people in the cult they took the stories created by the cult to hide their dying religion which was originally told orally. The Romans would persecute anyone following this cult, so they had to hide in some way that if read right, and deciphered people would discover the ancient cult that discovered the use of mushroom and the possibility of discovering something bigger than us.
John 6:53-6 reads, “Then Jesus said unto them, Verily verily I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh ismeat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.”
“This is saying pretty clearly that the eating and drinking is physical. My body is flesh indeed, and my blood is drink indeed, and the added statement that when you eat, it is inside of you leaves little room for debate that this is a substance, not a phantom symbol alone. For those who choose to debate this I ask that they show me their substance because according to Jesus' words unless you eat and drink of ‘It’ you have no life in you. By the way, do I really need to mention that this is not some strange reference to Cannibalism? I sure hope not, if you still think this, read on. Somewhere, some of this must convince you that he is not saying to take a bite out of his arm, or any other piece of his actual anatomy … In my opinion, the magical act of ‘Trans-Substantiation’ has no merit. The statement that Jesus makes ‘Unless you eat and drink you have no life in you’ would seem to condemn the replacement of whatever the real thing is with a placebo (substitute).” -James Arthur, “Mushrooms and Mankind” (29-30)
for people wondering, check out "The sacred mushroom and the Cross" by John Allegro, Oxford graduate and world’s leading philologist. he was commissioned to translate the Qumran Dead Sea Scrolls. But after his book “The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross” released and he died, the Catholic Church quickly bought the copyright and buried it.
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on
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nice come back i need to studie up, and i don't have my bible.
but any who the new testament consist of letters the diciples wrote. discribing what they seen living with jesus and of their life preaching the testament.. and when jesus spoke the shit about the bread as my flesh and all that, he was speaking in aramaic, so the poetic sybolism is kinda lost in translation, imo, that is when the church comes in and makes up their own version of the testamoney.
as for the manna, thast true no one knows what the fuck it is... and that would be tight if it was somethin like paode or mushies or somethin like that... i mean it is tha other side of the world, so maybe it's different.
however exodus is old test. (if they was trippin) they were talkin to god. and he told them about his son the messiah, and when he would come to earth to die. and jesus of nazerathe fullfilled every prophicy made about that messiah.. what are the odds of that. frying hebrews or not.
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on
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Jesus and God are the same...
..Only once a man of righteousness, born exactly the way the scriptures prophesied, was he able to become the ultiment sacrifice,(every wonder why jews don't sacrifice animals anymore?) after his death, his ghost, which is Holiest of Holies. covered the world, so that you could be forgiving of your trespasses against the Lord God of Creation. once that happened the law of religion became power less. oh yeas. read that part one more gain. so in order to keep order, religion was reshaped .. why do you think it is that our nation has been the most successful?(not counting the last couple decades) we rose up in knowledge, and power like no other before us (like, ancient rome, an egypt n all them) because when we started this nation, it was under God for Christs' people. now that it's filled wit all types of religions (just like the old Babylonia) we as a people do not put our trust in god anymore, but more so in money that says right on it. "in God we trust" (not to be gettin into that at all)
whatcha think about this part, any one morman? who thinks he is three separates entities?
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Permalink Reply by Cody Rowan on
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the reason christianity became so powerful was because all the European super powers took it and persecuted anyone who didn't follow it. Our country is number one, or was is because we bully other nations, and or kill anyone who stands in our way.
Your Local_Ghetto Superman said:
Jesus and God are the same...
..Only once a man of righteousness, born exactly the way the scriptures prophesied, was he able to become the ultiment sacrifice,(every wonder why jews don't sacrifice animals anymore?) after his death, his ghost, which is Holiest of Holies. covered the world, so that you could be forgiving of your trespasses against the Lord God of Creation. once that happened the law of religion became power less. oh yeas. read that part one more gain. so in order to keep order, religion was reshaped .. why do you think it is that our nation has been the most successful?(not counting the last couple decades) we rose up in knowledge, and power like no other before us (like, ancient rome, an egypt n all them) because when we started this nation, it was under God for Christs' people. now that it's filled wit all types of religions (just like the old Babylonia) we as a people do not put our trust in god anymore, but more so in money that says right on it. "in God we trust" (not to be gettin into that at all)
whatcha think about this part, any one morman? who thinks he is three separates entities?
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on
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yes the Europeans powers capitalized off it. and ruled their world, bulling others. but it was, and would have been, powerful because of what jesus is, was, and did.
other great empires bullied their way to the top but they always fell, we how ever didn't, just countinued to grow in power and knowledge. we're still controlled/manipulated by these same Europeans high ups, only they started a new breed, american.
Cody Rowan said:the reason christianity became so powerful was because all the European super powers took it and persecuted anyone who didn't follow it. Our country is number one, or was is because we bully other nations, and or kill anyone who stands in our way.
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on
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- i haven't denounced science, just some theories. science proves gods work.
- "old bible"? old testament. it states the wicked shall be punished into a lake of fire, the ancient word used in the scripture is some thine like shole or shul, idk exactly, off the top of my head.
- he made adam the way he was meant to be, but through sin of you and your father and his father and ect. - it sounds like pride might be your families vice... i don't know any more about you personally , however you are not being judged, you will be. when you die, your spirit goes to it's father (which is that of all creation Lord Jesus) to be judged based on the virtues of your soul. and weather or not you accepted Jesus for who he truly is on earth regardless of the way your are.
- allah is the word use by muslims for GOD? Jesus is God. or are the muslims waiting for God to come still...??
- get baptized in front of alota people, and than try to walk like Jesus is right there with you.
- i don't expect you to like my point of view, you have to want to be humble to your Creator and Savior; im only asking you 2 trust and seek the true word about Jesus from Nazareth. and authenticity of the Books in the "bible"
- Basic Instructions Befour Leaving Earth. lol i'v always thought that was emo-se-wa!
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on
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nothing to say diggity? or any science thumpers
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Permalink Reply by a tie a on -
i hurd that God is really just the devil in disguise and is pretending to be almighty. and he sent Jesus to play theatrics to give people faith to 'God', who is really the Devil to spread ignorance of evil so the Devil's doings can expand
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Permalink Reply by Nick Cherry on -
okay so the bible was wrote by man a shit load of different times they all have different views but in my point of view all of them could be false...who really knows how everything happened there are so many different religions how can u say that just one is right? i think it is really ignorant to blindly say that there is a right religion were yall there when the earth was created? or when Jesus was alive? the bible was written by man so who really knows whats right?
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