The Great Debate Science Vs. the true Christ, Jesus
ZietGayiest is straight illuminati/brotherhood of satan, at work.they want you to believe that there is an Illuminati, because if you believe in the devil it gives him power, eventually they want you to try and turn on the government, yes anarchy is part of there plan/agenda. they want you to believe this zeitgeist,= belief that faith in religion is a tool used by the "higher ups" to control you and manifest destiny according to there agenda. in that movie it showed how all cultural have a mysterious Deity. but all of those cultures were cultish vulturous. tryin to create there own imaginary messiah. through there own made up ancient history, with lack of truth they say is mystery. but in fact non of them worship or have a name for A Creator,..GOD(thus everyone has fallen from power) seems like they want to believe there is a God but they don't want to call him that word.
How ever all of these different nations, (i.e Egypt, Rome, Persia, Greece) created these legendary men, to fulfill the prophecies, in order to make all, drop to the knees, an worship there kingdom, falsely, but prosperously. they all studied the constellations and "zodiacs" but never just gave it up to the Lord God. and so, all of these, "Empires" fell. and fell hard. now keep in mind the Hebrew history tells us that all of these "great kingdoms" came about, because of babylon, ..after the fall of the tower of babel, came the mad confusion of tongues, "the mysteries!" and the made up there own histories. the fact that all of them share that same date of Dec 25,(jesus was born april 6) proves that it is satan at work. in the bible satan is referred to as the morning star.. Thou the fact that separates the anti-christs from tha actual Christ is that according to Hebrew history, and prophetic scriptures state that Jesus would be and was born an a "meridian of celestial time" meaning a middle of this worlds time line. and this day was April 6, 1 bc. and these Jewish scholars have it down to the hours in which he was born. and thats the whole northern star thing the kings followed to the baby Jesus. who grew up to fulfill the prophetic hebrew faith and scriptures. God sent himself through the womb of the Virgin Mary, in order to give the world he created his one begotten son, that who ever Believe in him shall not perish but live for eternity, life after death everlasting.
Only once a man of righteousness, born exactly the way the scriptures prophesied, was he able to become the ultiment sacrifice,(every wonder why jews don't sacrifice animals anymore?) after his death, his ghost, which is Holiest of Holies. covered the world, so that you could be forgiving of your trespasses against the Lord God of Creation. once that happened the law of religion became power less. oh yeas. read that part one more gain. so in order to keep order, religion was reshaped .. why do you think it is that our nation has been the most successful?(not counting the last couple decades) we rose up in knowledge, and power like no other before us (like, ancient rome, an egypt n all them) because when we started this nation, it was under God for Christs' people. now that it's filled wit all types of religions (just like the old Babylonia) we as a people do not put our trust in god anymore, but more so in money that says it right on it. (not to be gettin in to that at all)
i believe as a christian, that every 1700-2000 years something has happened that drastically changed the way we're heading. and each one(of the four) corresponds with an Element.(earth, water, wind, fire.) I.E.?? in the beginning God created the Earth, (oh and these four changes, go creation, destruction, creation, destruction) 1700 years later he floods it with Water, 300 or so years after that is when the tower of babel falls and all are separated to language and region.(thus creating race, creed and/or ethnic diversity) 1700-2000 years after that Jesus is born, lives to die so that his Spirit can cover the world in order to save us from an eternity of hell.
K?so that was about 2000 years ago. and the only element left, in my belief, would be Fire.
alright so i'm done with this last thing, the reason i believe there were a number of twelve disciples, and kings an all that,
has to to with the horroscope ihs to a degree, but i think it's more like there are twelve types of people/personality God can create/give us when we are given life/born on this earth, it says he has set the stars in the sky so that we can keep track of the seasons and the years, and to shine on us, to give us light. and light is love so idk you figures shit out on your own, but if it's truthful it will be backed up in the bible at least three times. peace out every one thanx4 reading.
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Permalink Reply by Your Local_Ghetto Superman on -
and i meant to put the sun and moon are the same size to the human eye(i.e a solor eclipse)
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sure ya did buddy
Your Local_Ghetto Superman said:
and i meant to put the sun and moon are the same size to the human eye(i.e a solor eclipse)
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nope i really thought they were the same in size. your right.
here check this out, this is what i meant.
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Permalink Reply by ElJefe7107 on -
If you think I don't have any education on the other side of the issue, you are sadly mistaken. You may have misconstrued my ambiguity on facts as not understanding what certain religions assert. I was Catholic for 19 years of my life... not a CEO Catholic, but a legitimate bible-thumping Catholic. I debated apologetics with many preachers over the years, but perhaps you're right. I was asking specifically because I wanted to discuss this issue with you. Obviously you consider yourself better educated on the subject than everyone else, but if you were, then you would make the connection of the logically fallicies presented. I think that you should discuss your faith-based assertions if you care if they are true. I do. I'm sorry, but I don't know what cbf means.
If I asserted any facts that you percieved as erroneous, I'll either concede if I'm wrong or present sources to demonstrate where I gained this knowledge. It's up to you though. You can just assume superiority with your straw-man arguements, and that's a logical fallacy too fyi.
The Crazy Englishman! said:My side on the issue doesn't matter. You can't argue a belief system because, as the name suggests, it takes belief to understand and accept it. Also, none of the people in here have any education on the other side of the argument so they spew ignorance. I'm not going to point out any examples because I cbf with the replies from those they belong to lol.
ElJefe7107 said:I'm curious to hear your side on the issue. I'm not trying to instigate a dick-measuring contest, but I'd like to try to have a little intellectual discourse with someone who actually knows what they are talking about. To be truthful about this whole thing, I could care less about this whole issue, but I'm just bored.
The Crazy Englishman! said:So many retards in here. On both sides of the 'argument'.
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Permalink Reply by ₡₱♛ on
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^ is the term "CEO Catholic" actually a real phrase??? I thought I was the only person who used that lol
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Permalink Reply by ElJefe7107 on
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I've heard it for a long time now. I thought it was funny, so i've used it since I can remember
Cole said:^ is the term "CEO Catholic" actually a real phrase??? I thought I was the only person who used that lol
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Permalink Reply by Sean Christian Macias on -
It is in your case, because you are :^)
And I was speaking for his English professor, because he probably has.
Gavin Brown said:>implying "Fuck Boy" is a proper noun.
>implying my English professor is still alive.
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Sean Christian Macias said:If that's the best counter argument you have, then do me a favor and NEVER join a debate team. I'd rather have a few mistakes and know what I'm talking about than pretend I do know what I'm talking out and have my English professor put a gun in their mouth. So again, Fuck Boy, since you have not really added a true opinion to the thread other than the general knowledge that the sun and moon aren't the same size. You can go suck on the tit of ignorant bliss with your boyfriend Ghetto Superman.
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>"don't be a hypocrite"
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Sean Christian Macias said:So this is a statement of support?
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Is his entire argument. Fuck Boy!
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First off, don't be a hypocrite. It doesn't show your intelligence. Second, considering I wrote that retort in 2 minutes, without having checked for errors before posting. Shows I have a much better understanding of the English Language than that imbecile who posted this nonsensical piece of literature, if you'd even call it that, in the first place. So, how about you bullshit someone else with your false bravado because any jackass can make himself sound better than he really is when this:
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Good God.
Hey asshole, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all.
Gavin Brown said:I...
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Your Local_Ghetto Superman said:First i wasn't tryin to disprove scientist, because they can't disprove God.mathematics were made up by man, written facts of gods will and authority.i was merly stating what your, Frist Page, of whatever small bible it is your read from, really says. (which by the way was only the first four paragraphs)
for you to try and say, or believe that you, or any scientists, could fathem whathappened in the beginning of the universe you are crazy. like i said i was watching the discovery channel and they said that. as soon as i seen and heard there theroy,i knew the truth in my heart because i read and believe the bibles creation. and when i wrote what i did to you i had the bible right next to me.
i can't remember where it was but i'm pretty sure i said that the planets and stars where all created at the same time, the stars, were just not illumintated yet, untill the fourth day, then the lights came on and all was able to grow. (kinda like you mind)and the nesx days follow that of you darwinism, he created the fish in the sea, and then the insects and and animals, then he made man, and out of man he made women.. so maybe adam was asexual lol
sheep herdering is really hard, you try to live were they did/do(hebrews) and survive off the the land like that. and they did not decide to fuse it together it always was, is and shall be.truth, the fact that a man named moses was abel to put together the basis of science in thefirst line."God created time, and space, and matter" before there was any proof of the shit.(sci.) i understand science and your theroys but it's twisted very cleverly, and i simple disregard the bullshit. you say this universe isn't perfect, have you never made love to a sexy beautiful women?have you never felt the joy of bringing life into the world? you don't think for one second that the sun and moon are the same size because of God? and give light to this planet perfectly, as do the stars because of some awesome supreme being? and he isn't worthy of your praises.
i how ever am no longer delusional, i gave up the darkness for the love of life and Jesus.why do i feel like this is a juggulo site, and not a tech n9ne site...you do know every one on strange, from K.C., is a God fearing christian don't you, and how the whole lot of em are trying to steer away from the devil, and Go with the Lord.ya'll act like you still listening to K.O.D or something.. take a time and read his thanxyous.
and Love.
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Permalink Reply by Dukecityspecialist on -
Actually light did come b4 the.sun
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DeeP subject. your own. "child like faith" so you don't get wrapped up in religion. :)
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Permalink Reply by The Crazy Englishman! on -
Cbf means Cant be fucked lol. I didn't mean to give the impression that i'm insanely educated on this subject, as I'm not. All I meant was, that from what I'd read in the previous posts there were a lot of, what I percieve to be, false 'facts', and that people were arguing mainly about their side and not touching the other, aside from brief insults. The reason I don't want to argue on this topic is because I believe that religion and other beliefs are things you have to work out for yourself, asking for help when you need it. I don't think they are things that you can succesfully argue, If someone could have their faith swayed with one argument then they didn't have faith in the first place. Just want to say aswell, in case it comes across that way, I'm not religous lol.
ElJefe7107 said:
If you think I don't have any education on the other side of the issue, you are sadly mistaken. You may have misconstrued my ambiguity on facts as not understanding what certain religions assert. I was Catholic for 19 years of my life... not a CEO Catholic, but a legitimate bible-thumping Catholic. I debated apologetics with many preachers over the years, but perhaps you're right. I was asking specifically because I wanted to discuss this issue with you. Obviously you consider yourself better educated on the subject than everyone else, but if you were, then you would make the connection of the logically fallicies presented. I think that you should discuss your faith-based assertions if you care if they are true. I do. I'm sorry, but I don't know what cbf means.
If I asserted any facts that you percieved as erroneous, I'll either concede if I'm wrong or present sources to demonstrate where I gained this knowledge. It's up to you though. You can just assume superiority with your straw-man arguements, and that's a logical fallacy too fyi.
The Crazy Englishman! said:My side on the issue doesn't matter. You can't argue a belief system because, as the name suggests, it takes belief to understand and accept it. Also, none of the people in here have any education on the other side of the argument so they spew ignorance. I'm not going to point out any examples because I cbf with the replies from those they belong to lol.
ElJefe7107 said:I'm curious to hear your side on the issue. I'm not trying to instigate a dick-measuring contest, but I'd like to try to have a little intellectual discourse with someone who actually knows what they are talking about. To be truthful about this whole thing, I could care less about this whole issue, but I'm just bored.
The Crazy Englishman! said:So many retards in here. On both sides of the 'argument'.
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