Tech N9ne "E.B.A.H." music video

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Permalink Reply by ֆӄʐ ♔ on September 12, 2012 at 2:47am

FAQ for people who don't want to read what has been said already.

Q: Is "Money Motivated Mishap Asmodeus Monikers Mended" a grammatically valid sentence?

A: Yes.

Q: How?

A: The English language has been used this way for hundreds of years in poetry, it uses 'attendant modifiers' to compliment the prior and following words so that adpositions become unnecessary. Adpositions are words like "an" "to" etc. That sit between words so that they are easier to understand in context.

Q: So if I don't understand this should I say it doesn't make sense?

A: No, not at all. It's common to not understand things that just 'are'. You can always learn how to identify these things, or just be humble in not knowing and accept the way things are. Don't stress your head about it.

Q: What If I disagree with you?

A: Well, you're entitle to your opinion, although I don't encourage having a wrong opinion. But sure!

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Permalink Reply by θάνατος εις Πεφωτισμένων ʘ on September 12, 2012 at 2:55am

Lol revert back to my original post on this thread and you'll clearly see my discrepancies with the individual bar. I've already explained that I understand the definition as well as synonyms of each word and how they could be used together to create the definition of such that you're attempting to "explain". I stated that there is no substance/depth to his lyrics within the bar structure he used. You still have yet to provide any example of the contrary because you are fully aware that you cannot. Although you're putting it up on a pedestal as if it's so lyrically complex that only few can grasp it otherwise it's gibberish (congrats on butchering that simple word fucking genius lmfao). You are merely a pawn that's feeding into the forethought that you yourself are intended to look up to Tech N9ne. So he's able to claim that he's "Earregular" essentially meaning you are incapable of hearing what he hears thus making you inferior to him. By the attitude you continue to unveil it would seem as if you are a mindless tool that will quickly buy into that mindstate. It's actually hilarious to me how you would try to even stand in defense of such an abhorrent individual structure of rhyme within that bar. So yes, at the end of the day we'll continue to each have our own opinions of the matter. Just for shits and giggles I'll go ahead and give you my true opinion of your opinion of my opinion of such a pointless line. You are obviously programmed to bite the bait given to you and will trail completely out of your way convince others (when truly you are feebly attempting to convince yourself at your core) that your opinion is fact and your standpoint is foolproof (which is a complete farce). Based on your viewpoint of the individual bar itself I'd say you are prone to artist puppetry and are absolutely incapable of breaking free from the strings tightly woven into your limbs and will continue to be a mere marionette dancing to the hand controlling you. From this point forward anything you attempt to refute or otherwise defend is invalid, irrelevant, and ignorant (woah Mr. Siikez calm down now) as you must have created your avatar to represent that you are truly the King Of Stanism. You honestly reflect it hahaha.

Siikez said:

You don't walk up to someone and speak in linguistic phenomena, it's used in poetry and examples of English flexibility. I'm not sure what to tell you 'Slim Strange'. It's not about emcees and rhymes. It's about the English language. And I just pretty much told you that it is a grammatically valid statement lacking unneeded adposition. That can't be argued. That's English. It's set in stone. What you're trying to say is "it doesn't appeal to me". Which is fine, it can seem like jibberish to people that aren't so great with syntax. But I mean, I literally can't tell you any further than what I've told you. I mean, it's like explaining maths, you can only go so far until you've taught someone all there is to know, if they don't understand they don't understand. =/ You were literally right on schedule with the 25 minute reply btw BMF. 

Slim Strange said:

Lmao at you thinking I'd take twenty-five minutes typing a response as if anyone would sit around their computer screen waiting for a pathetic irrelevant response like you obviously do. It seems you are attempting to divert from the main course of conversation by trying to drag a simple lyric analysis into a debate over semantics and the English language. Simply put, if you approach and individual and say "Money Motivated Mishap Asmodeus Monikers Mended" it wouldn't complete an entire complete intelligent full train of thought thus not equating in the slightest to a legitimate sentence. This just goes to show me that you are in favor of dumbed down lyrics that are simple, ingenuine, lack substance/meaning, have little to no forethought at all, and are placed within a bar structure simply to attempt to sound complex. I'm sure if Tech N9ne did happen to use any of the examples I've provided within his verses that you would devour it and defend them as your level of sheer Stanism is insurmountable. In case you aren't aware music is subjective and everybody will have their own opinion of it. I've simply stated why I feel that particular bar is whack and you've now went out of your way to debate that when your preference obviously differs. Of course you've already proven that in my eyes you'd gobble up Tech N9ne's sperm no matter which way he shot it at you. Just because dude blurts out meaningless rambles doesn't mean everyone has to worship the ground he walks on as you do. I'm actually a fan of his as I previously mentioned, but when I hear something below par I'll address it. You on the other hand seem incapable of that due to the fact you feel... "GAHHH TECH N9NE GOAT SPIT THIS RHYME". Lol you truly are an incoherent, impotent, ignorant bastard. Holy bee-jesus multiple use of the letter "I" consecutively! I wouldn't want you to mount a hard on with that alpha-sentence (LOL)!

So Mr. Siikez please tell me again how...

Money Motivated Mishap Asmodeus Monikers Mended

Is so prestigiously unsurpassed in terms of depth and has even the slightest bit of relevance to lyricism in the sense I was describing (hence substance, meaning, message, originality, hell even intelligent thought).

Oh wait... You can't as you'd rather avert the true point of topic to discuss grammar and how somebody who doesn't share your opinion is inferior to you. Lol yeah right, that'll ever be the day cocksucker. Have fun becoming a high priest within your undying faith of Stanism.

Siikez said:

I lol'd

It seems you aren't very good in the language department. Let me educate you. Just because something doesn't sound syntactically correct to you, doesn't mean it isn't. Your examples are poor. The types of sentences you're trying to combat are phrases that don't need adpositions when complemented with their 'attendant modifiers' within the phrase. If you didn't know what I just said, that'd be why you don't understand the lyrics meaning. With spoken English, not only is emphasis on punctuation delivered with accentuation on certain words, it can also be easy to miss things like the aforementioned. Let me give you some grammatically valid sentences to fuck with your mind, and let you start to see why Techs simple 6 word line is more valid than you think.

How about the classic statement: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

And: Can can can can can can can can can can.

And: James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher.

All of the above sentences are grammatically valid, but lack "extended grammar" because as I explained, complementary adposition is not necessary. 

Before you go ahead and take another 25 minutes to reply, don't waste your time. You're not up to snuff with this subject, as much as you'd like to think you are.

Slim Strange said:

Lol you clearly didn't read my last post. I'm aware of the meaning of each word, that doesn't change the fact they don't technically complete an entire well established thought within the rhyme. Try claiming that as a legitimate sentence (equating to a unit of grammar that expresses a complete individual statement) to an English/Grammar professor and watch him laugh at your ignorance.

So let's say an emcee came out with a bar like this...

Wagering Wicked Women Waxing Wedlock's Willing 

 

Wagering Wicked Women = Gambling with unjust females

Waxing Wedlock's Willing = Ejaculating on the voluntarily unfaithful

So together that would translate to him... Gambling with unjust females by ejaculating on the voluntarily unfaithful?

Give me a fucking break the entire thought (or lack thereof) behind that whack attempt of bar structure is beyond lame. The only reason it was even done in the first place was to try to fool people into thinking it's some sort of complex lyricism when it truly just lacks anything substantial.

Again I'll refer to it as...

Narrow Needless Neglected Nonsense Niched Neatly

 

I mean since you would sit there and eat that pathetic style of trash up lol.

(P.S. My mind frame is far from bottled. Although you may want to assess yours after your last response)

Siikez said:

Money Motivated Mishap = A mistake driven by money.

Asmodeus Monikers Mended = The nickname 'Asmodeus' (King of Demons, refering to KOD) being healed/cured.

It makes sense. But some people, like Slim Strange (BottledMindFrame) have a bit of trouble getting that though.

My advice to Slim, keep a thesaurus handy. 

Shane said:

Money Motivated Mishap Asmodeus Monikers Mended

Mishap - Unlucky, Asmodeus - King of demons, Monikers - A name

He rhymes for money and is unlucky because hes a demon and "Monikers mended", I would assume hes talking about K.O.D..

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Permalink Reply by ֆӄʐ ♔ on September 12, 2012 at 3:01am

I skimmed through what you said, you just repeated yourself. I'm not sure how much more clear I can be than the facts. And I didn't put it on a pedestal, In fact I referred to it as a "simple 6 word" something. But it's understandable that when you don't understand something, it can seem like being able to understand it is some crazy thing. For example "magnets, how do they work?". Pro tip: Don't let your pride make you look like a fool. Sometimes it's better to accept when you're wrong.

Any way, I'll allow you to ignore the facts that are undeniable, y'know, like the English language.

I'll start educating you on other things, for other members of this sites entertainment now.

All the data on the internet has physical mass which weighs 50grams.

Slim Strange said:

Lol revert back to my original post on this thread and you'll clearly see my discrepancies with the individual bar. I've already explained that I understand the definition as well as synonyms of each word and how they could be used together to create the definition of such that you're attempting to "explain". I stated that there is no substance/depth to his lyrics within the bar structure he used. You still have yet to provide any example of the contrary because you are fully aware that you cannot. Although you're putting it up on a pedestal as if it's so lyrically complex that only few can grasp it otherwise it's gibberish (congrats on butchering that simple word fucking genius lmfao). You are merely a pawn that's feeding into the forethought that you yourself are intended to look up to Tech N9ne. So he's able to claim that he's "Earregular" essentially meaning you are incapable of hearing what he hears thus making you inferior to him. By the attitude you continue to unveil it would seem as if you are a mindless tool that will quickly buy into that mindstate. It's actually hilarious to me how you would try to even stand in defense of such an abhorrent individual structure. So yes, at the end of the day we'll continue to each have our own opinions of the matter. Just for shits and giggles I'll go ahead and give you my true opinion of your opinion of my opinion of such a pointless line. You are obviously programmed to bite the bait given to you and will trail completely out of your way convince others (when truly you are feebly attempting to convince yourself at your core) that your opinion is fact and your standpoint is foolproof (which is a complete farce). Based on your viewpoint of the individual bar itself I'd say you are prone to artist puppetry and are absolutely incapable of breaking free from the strings tightly woven into your limbs and will continue to be a mere marionette dancing to the hand controlling you. From this point forward anything you attempt to refute or otherwise defend is invalid, irrelevant, and ignorant (woah Mr. Siikez calm down now) as you must have created your avatar to represent that you are truly the King Of Stanism. You honestly reflect it hahaha.

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Permalink Reply by θάνατος εις Πεφωτισμένων ʘ on September 12, 2012 at 3:04am

Fact: I simply stated that Tech N9ne's recent material has lacked substance, depth, and message which is my opinion.

Fact: I continued to explain that I wasn't a fan of the bar structure used as it doesn't truly create an entire thought and was merely used for "shock factor" in attempting to convince listeners it's complex.

Fact: I provided examples exactly resembling the format of rhyme Tech N9ne used within that line and how they are complete bullshit even in each way that was refuted.

Fact: Siikez is a dense dimwitted douchebag drone (Siikez begins to get a hard-on from such alpha-sentence lololol) who is hellbent on imposing his opinions upon others especially if they don't aline with his own.

Fact: Siikez would rather drag the original topic of conversation into a debate of grammar/semantics in order to make himself look as if he's intelligent than actually discuss the true point because he truly knows he's mistaken in the matter and he wouldn't be able to defend such a line.

Fact: Any response Siikez continues to relay from this point forward is irrelevant as he's proven himself to be...

ALPHA-STAN

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Permalink Reply by Shane on September 12, 2012 at 3:06am

Poetry isn't necessarily formed with complete sentences. Hence "bars" or "lines" are what each line is called. It comes in many different forms which in some cases can be called "Wordplay". "Money motivated asmodeus monikers mended" is what you'd call an example of wordplay. Go ahead, check out this website. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_play

 

Sure, theres no pun to what hes planted but its still just wordplay. You two seem to know your English pretty well or just parts of it but i'm suprised what I typed above wasn't caught on long before a arguement could be born.

 

PS: People seem to be a little to quick to judge someone as a "dickrider". And also "Try claiming that as a legitimate sentence (equating to a unit of grammar that expresses a complete individual statement) to an English/Grammar professor and watch him laugh at your ignorance." - Slim Strange. I doubt that if the English professor knows his poetry.

 

 

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Permalink Reply by ֆӄʐ ♔ on September 12, 2012 at 3:08am

Don't worry about it man, some people let their pride get in the way of obvious things. So much so that they will completely shut out the facts of simple things like the language we speak lmao.

Shane said:

Poetry isn't necessarily formed with complete sentences. Hence "bars" or "lines" are what each line is called. It comes in many different forms which in some cases can be called "Wordplay". "Money motivated asmodeus monikers mended" is what you'd call an example of wordplay. Go ahead, check out this website. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_play

 

Sure, theres no pun to what hes planted but its still just wordplay. You two seem to know your English pretty well or just parts of it but i'm suprised what I typed above wasn't caught on long before a arguement could be born.

 

PS: People seem to be a little to quick to judge someone as a "dickrider". And also "Try claiming that as a legitimate sentence (equating to a unit of grammar that expresses a complete individual statement) to an English/Grammar professor and watch him laugh at your ignorance." - Slim Strange. I doubt that if the English professor knows his poetry.

 

 

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Permalink Reply by θάνατος εις Πεφωτισμένων ʘ on September 12, 2012 at 3:10am

Lolololololol

Siikez said:

I skimmed through what you said, you just repeated yourself. I'm not sure how much more clear I can be than the facts. And I didn't put it on a pedestal, In fact I referred to it as a "simple 6 word" something. But it's understandable that when you don't understand something, it can seem like being able to understand it is some crazy thing. For example "magnets, how do they work?". Pro tip: Don't let your pride make you look like a fool. Sometimes it's better to accept when you're wrong.

Any way, I'll allow you to ignore the facts that are undeniable, y'know, like the English language.

I'll start educating you on other things, for other members of this sites entertainment now.

All the data on the internet has physical mass which weighs 50grams.

Slim Strange said:

Lol revert back to my original post on this thread and you'll clearly see my discrepancies with the individual bar. I've already explained that I understand the definition as well as synonyms of each word and how they could be used together to create the definition of such that you're attempting to "explain". I stated that there is no substance/depth to his lyrics within the bar structure he used. You still have yet to provide any example of the contrary because you are fully aware that you cannot. Although you're putting it up on a pedestal as if it's so lyrically complex that only few can grasp it otherwise it's gibberish (congrats on butchering that simple word fucking genius lmfao). You are merely a pawn that's feeding into the forethought that you yourself are intended to look up to Tech N9ne. So he's able to claim that he's "Earregular" essentially meaning you are incapable of hearing what he hears thus making you inferior to him. By the attitude you continue to unveil it would seem as if you are a mindless tool that will quickly buy into that mindstate. It's actually hilarious to me how you would try to even stand in defense of such an abhorrent individual structure. So yes, at the end of the day we'll continue to each have our own opinions of the matter. Just for shits and giggles I'll go ahead and give you my true opinion of your opinion of my opinion of such a pointless line. You are obviously programmed to bite the bait given to you and will trail completely out of your way convince others (when truly you are feebly attempting to convince yourself at your core) that your opinion is fact and your standpoint is foolproof (which is a complete farce). Based on your viewpoint of the individual bar itself I'd say you are prone to artist puppetry and are absolutely incapable of breaking free from the strings tightly woven into your limbs and will continue to be a mere marionette dancing to the hand controlling you. From this point forward anything you attempt to refute or otherwise defend is invalid, irrelevant, and ignorant (woah Mr. Siikez calm down now) as you must have created your avatar to represent that you are truly the King Of Stanism. You honestly reflect it hahaha.

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Permalink Reply by ֆӄʐ ♔ on September 12, 2012 at 3:11am

Mirrors are Green.

Slim Strange said:

Lolololololol

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Permalink Reply by θάνατος εις Πεφωτισμένων ʘ on September 12, 2012 at 3:13am

Lol you couldn't be more mistaken.

Shane said:

 I doubt that if the English professor knows his poetry.

 

 

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Permalink Reply by θάνατος εις Πεφωτισμένων ʘ on September 12, 2012 at 3:14am

Lolololololol

Siikez said:

Mirrors are Green.

Slim Strange said:

Lolololololol

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Permalink Reply by ֆӄʐ ♔ on September 12, 2012 at 3:15am

The male angler fish is incredibly small, to reproduce it bites into the female angler fish and releases enzymes fusing himself into the female. This induces pregnancy. Killing the male.

Slim Strange said:

Lol you couldn't be more mistaken.

Shane said:

 I doubt that if the English professor knows his poetry.

 

 

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Permalink Reply by θάνατος εις Πεφωτισμένων ʘ on September 12, 2012 at 3:17am

Lolololololol

Siikez said:

The male angler fish is incredibly small, to reproduce it bites into the female angler fish and releases enzymes fusing himself into the female. This induces pregnancy. Killing the male.

Slim Strange said:

Lol you couldn't be more mistaken.

Shane said:

 I doubt that if the English professor knows his poetry.

 

 

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