Rap Question

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Permalink Reply by Dukecityspecialist on April 12, 2011 at 6:58pm

they say that life is short and sleeps the equivalent of death/

so i learn from every breath and try to take notes on every step/

 

thats two bars bro, i Rhyme on all of my bars or try to, it might be you rrhyme structure or the way you breath when you recite,

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Permalink Reply by Roberto Pasquale Donsano on April 12, 2011 at 9:22pm

Standard rap is much like poetry with is rhyme scheme.

1

2

3

2

Every other stanza would be a rhyme. You could do other variations like:

1

2

1

2

or

1

1

1

1

Tech and other hardcore Emcees obviously rhyme things in more creative ways, and rhyme within bars, but if your a beginner, Tech is not the person to listin to because he has the craziest flow ever lol.  Be a beginner, count your syllables and focus on it sounding good before you focus on making "dope" you know what I mean?

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Permalink Reply by Jimmy Nims on April 12, 2011 at 10:21pm

What do you mean by count my syllables. Like say a certain amount of words per bar? I think I see what you mean by the 1 ,2, 3, 2 thing. Does that mean like say the bar differently on a different number?

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Permalink Reply by matt meyer on April 12, 2011 at 10:31pm

i think wen he repeated a number that means it rhymed with the other bar with that number.

i shouldnt really be posting i dont rap that much. wenever i try writing it comes out fuckin horrorcore murder shit and thats not me or what i listen to at all. lol so i just quit trying.

Jimmy Nims said:

What do you mean by count my syllables. Like say a certain amount of words per bar? I think I see what you mean by the 1 ,2, 3, 2 thing. Does that mean like say the bar differently on a different number?

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Permalink Reply by Robert J on April 12, 2011 at 11:26pm

yo there's not one way to do it just make sure your creative with your rhyme scheme

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Permalink Reply by trevor on April 13, 2011 at 12:09am

hes obviously having trouble making a rhyme scheme.

Robert J said:

yo there's not one way to do it just make sure your creative with your rhyme scheme

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Permalink Reply by Lulz on April 13, 2011 at 12:24am

Syllables are the sounds in a word so; Syllable = 3. And count syllables is like keeping the same amount of syllables in each line or the same in each line that rhymes.

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Permalink Reply by Gustavo Giron on April 13, 2011 at 12:49am

Ima cynical mystical lyrical Mastermind/Fin a go hard in the core so obstacles can't Stop my rhyme/
This is an example of more than one rhyme In a bar

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Permalink Reply by Roberto Pasquale Donsano on April 13, 2011 at 1:43pm

Rap is actually ALL mathematics, Tech N9ne is a flow master because he always has a flow with an amount of syllables per bar, stanza or verse, that are divisible by the beat increments hes saying them in.  The amount of syllables can be anything depending on your pauses, breathes, speed.  Tech is always saying, especially when he speeds it up, he needs to count.  "Pis-Tol Pack-in Mon-ey Mack-in"  2 syllables each word, comes out to 8 syllables, simple, yet beautiful.  Sounds good because its even.  Don't think i'm saying only an even amount of syllables is the only way to get a good verse, I'm just saying its easy, simple, and esthetically pleasing to the ear.  We wanna get into the odd numbers, you just gotta make sure there are and even amount of odds.  The more I talk about it the more confusing it will sound.  Read lyrics, bop your head, feel the beat and you'll get it.  It's a lot easier than it sounds.  Most main stream rap sounds like crap because the artists really don't understand the workings of poetry first.  I'm not saying its the only way, There are plenty of artists I like that aren't "Flow masters".  But it just sounded like you want that flow that just rolls off your tongue and sounds like gold.  Hope I helped =).  And Matt is right, each number that is the same is a rhyme

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Permalink Reply by Robert J on April 13, 2011 at 4:08pm

lol this fool busting out with the lyricist secrets.. all thou even if your syllables are right that doesn't mean it will sound perfect..the english language is inperfect in itself. it doesn't translate that good to sound. The best adivce I could honestly give you is too  write your lyrics in some type syllable format like make the last two syallbles rhyme in every stanza and just sound out the rest

Roberto Pasquale Donsano said:

Rap is actually ALL mathematics, Tech N9ne is a flow master because he always has a flow with an amount of syllables per bar, stanza or verse, that are divisible by the beat increments hes saying them in.  The amount of syllables can be anything depending on your pauses, breathes, speed.  Tech is always saying, especially when he speeds it up, he needs to count.  "Pis-Tol Pack-in Mon-ey Mack-in"  2 syllables each word, comes out to 8 syllables, simple, yet beautiful.  Sounds good because its even.  Don't think i'm saying only an even amount of syllables is the only way to get a good verse, I'm just saying its easy, simple, and esthetically pleasing to the ear.  We wanna get into the odd numbers, you just gotta make sure there are and even amount of odds.  The more I talk about it the more confusing it will sound.  Read lyrics, bop your head, feel the beat and you'll get it.  It's a lot easier than it sounds.  Most main stream rap sounds like crap because the artists really don't understand the workings of poetry first.  I'm not saying its the only way, There are plenty of artists I like that aren't "Flow masters".  But it just sounded like you want that flow that just rolls off your tongue and sounds like gold.  Hope I helped =).  And Matt is right, each number that is the same is a rhyme

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Permalink Reply by Insane1 on April 13, 2011 at 6:34pm

Learning how to read music (not just follow lyrics, but actually read the notes) would also help, but not required.

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Permalink Reply by Roberto Pasquale Donsano on April 13, 2011 at 9:33pm

"This fool" is just tryin to help.  He is having trouble "sounding out the rest".

Robert J said:

lol this fool busting out with the lyricist secrets.. all thou even if your syllables are right that doesn't mean it will sound perfect..the english language is inperfect in itself. it doesn't translate that good to sound. The best adivce I could honestly give you is too  write your lyrics in some type syllable format like make the last two syallbles rhyme in every stanza and just sound out the rest

Roberto Pasquale Donsano said:

Rap is actually ALL mathematics, Tech N9ne is a flow master because he always has a flow with an amount of syllables per bar, stanza or verse, that are divisible by the beat increments hes saying them in.  The amount of syllables can be anything depending on your pauses, breathes, speed.  Tech is always saying, especially when he speeds it up, he needs to count.  "Pis-Tol Pack-in Mon-ey Mack-in"  2 syllables each word, comes out to 8 syllables, simple, yet beautiful.  Sounds good because its even.  Don't think i'm saying only an even amount of syllables is the only way to get a good verse, I'm just saying its easy, simple, and esthetically pleasing to the ear.  We wanna get into the odd numbers, you just gotta make sure there are and even amount of odds.  The more I talk about it the more confusing it will sound.  Read lyrics, bop your head, feel the beat and you'll get it.  It's a lot easier than it sounds.  Most main stream rap sounds like crap because the artists really don't understand the workings of poetry first.  I'm not saying its the only way, There are plenty of artists I like that aren't "Flow masters".  But it just sounded like you want that flow that just rolls off your tongue and sounds like gold.  Hope I helped =).  And Matt is right, each number that is the same is a rhyme

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