Linkin Park - Wretches And Kings

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Permalink Reply by F.T.I. on September 3, 2010 at 12:30am

I read a review someone put up on a different site from a private listen thru they did, and they said the album is more of Mike and Chester is more of a backup singer, and that there's hardly any guitars, more techno type hybrid theory style beats. 

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Permalink Reply by ₡₱♛ on September 3, 2010 at 5:39am

yeah ive read a few reviews from the LPU members that got to listen to the album. sounds really different. Mike is my favorite artist so im down to hear more of him lol. not really sure what to expect from the album but i like what ive heard so far

F.T.I. said:

I read a review someone put up on a different site from a private listen thru they did, and they said the album is more of Mike and Chester is more of a backup singer, and that there's hardly any guitars, more techno type hybrid theory style beats. 

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Permalink Reply by F.T.I. on September 3, 2010 at 5:45am

Word. They haven't disappointed me yet. Should leak soon. 

Cole said:

yeah ive read a few reviews from the LPU members that got to listen to the album. sounds really different. Mike is my favorite artist so im down to hear more of him lol. not really sure what to expect from the album but i like what ive heard so far F.T.I. said:

I read a review someone put up on a different site from a private listen thru they did, and they said the album is more of Mike and Chester is more of a backup singer, and that there's hardly any guitars, more techno type hybrid theory style beats. 

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Permalink Reply by F.T.I. on September 3, 2010 at 6:00am

This was posted today 

Album review: Linkin Park, A Thousand Suns (track-by-track)03 September 2010
by Jason Treuen
When Linkin Park's third album Minutes to Midnight dropped in 2007, the band hailed it as a great departure. It wasn't. Sure there were tweaks (less rapping, more singing, more solos) but Linkin Park’s patented DNA - tortured lyrics, crunching nu-metal, chest-beating choruses - was as obvious as ever.
That great departure finally arrives with their new album A Thousand Suns. Armed with an array of samplers and synths and a noble desire to smash the blueprint, this is Linkin Park as you’ve never heard them before. And departure's the critical term here for they’re bound to leave many original fans behind after this one.
Quite obviously, A Thousand Suns is a concept album. From its title (a quote from the "Father of the Atomic Bomb", Robert Oppenheimer) to song names like The Requiem, Burning in the Skies and Fallout to the doomsday lyrics, ATS teeters on the end of nuclear war (by machines?) and ponders salvation in the face of such destruction.
You can also tell it's a concept album because it has interludes. Lots and lots of interludes. Six in total, and that includes not one, but two intros.
Track one, The Requiem, starts with desolate atmos and sparse piano. A ghostly choir starts chanting and a robot girl voice (which is actually a filtered Shinoda) sings the refrain from the first single The Catalyst – “God bless us everyone / We're a broken people living under loaded gun”. Sounds like the start of a movie.
It segues into The Radiance, which is mostly the audio quote from Oppenheimer’s infamous 'Destroyer of Worlds' speech after he detonated the first atomic bomb. Heavy topics, but where’s the songs?
Ahhh here they are… track three Burning In The Skies kicks off with a clubby electronic drum beat, a stark piano motif (henceforth known as the Apocalyptic Piano™) and hardly any guitars! You can hear fans gnashing their teeth already.
Co-frontman Chester Bennington feels more restrained than usual, although his lyrics are awash with references of ruin before launching into a chorus - “I’m swimming in the smoke of bridges I’ve burnt” – that’s not too dissimilar to past single What I’ve Done. Cue big, glacial guitars howling in the bridge, but so far it’s still very Linkin Park-y. Potential single for sure.
Track four Empty Spaces is just crickets and distant bombs, before track five When They Come For Me throws that out the window with a jarring blast of electronic pulses, mechanical percussion and hip hop beats. Co-frontman Mike Shinoda is back on the mic and rapping (!) and even dropping some ‘motherfuckers’.
Whoah! One minute we’re smoking bridges and lamenting life after the apocalypse and now we’re putting our hands in the air like we just don't care! Is there a bomb shelter in the house?! Who cares – robot rap party! Chester taunts ‘Come for me, come for me’ in the bridge before the tune explodes again. Sounds a lot like Shinoda’s side-project Fort Minor.
Back to playing the Apocalyptic Piano™ on the edge of extinction for track six Robot Boy with some thunderclap drums and atmospheric keys. It’s a slower, more melodic string-laden track, with reverbed vocals singing “You say you’re not gonna fight ‘cause no one’s gonna fight for you”. Not terribly exciting this one.
Track seven Jornado Del Muerto is another useless segue track but the following Waiting for the End shows promise with an interesting robotic beat and Shinoda rapping in a ragga style. Bennington comes in with a big, almost ballad-like chorus – “All I wanna do is treat it like it’s something new” - before another fist-pumping Shinoda shakedown.
Older fans will welcome Blackout with Bennington quickly spitting lyrics about acid rain and anarchy over a chugging distorted guitar before chewing razorblades and screaming the chorus ‘Blackout, blood in your eyes’. After a huge metal dubstep breakdown, it falls into a quiet lull starring Apocalyptic Piano™ and Bennington’s auto-tweaked balladeering. The ending feels tacked on. Strange.
Next track Wretches and Kings is a hard-hitting highlight. A monstrous breakbeat, thundering bass and freaked-out guitar explode as Shinoda reworks Public Enemy’s “bass, how low will you go?” to “To save face, how low will you go?” in this cybernetic fight track. Benington bursts into the chorus shrieking and it sounds epic.The moshpit will eat this up.
Then it’s over to another segue Wisdom, Justice and Love and a Martin Luther King quote that slowly morphs into an evil robot voice.
Ahhh, the Apoca-piano™ returns! Iridescent is a mid-tempo Linkin ballad aka previous hits like Leave Out All The Rest. Triple M will be relieved! Finally a track they can play. Features some of Benington’s wettest lyrics on ATS, “Do you feel cold and lost in desperation? / Remember all the sadness and frustrations and… let it go!” One of the only singable songs.
Fallout is another interlude with Shinoda’s robotic voice singing lyrics from Burning Up The Skies. It fades into first single The Catalyst, which, despite fans fighting tooth and nail on the internet, is the best distillation of Linkin Park 2.0. Bursting forth with trance-like synths, programmed beats and a slow-burning build, it builds to a huge fist-in-the-air battle cry. If this was a film, this would be the victorious fight scene.
And then we’re left with final track, The Messenger, where Bennington swaps the Apoca-piano™ for the Apocalyptic Campfire Jam™ and an acoustic guitar. Yes, an acoustic guitar. We thought they'd all be destroyed in the nuclear fire, but no, Benington gives it a bash. Singing raw and without Autotune, he murders this song and really over-sings it. Truly painful. Think he snuck this one onto the record after the other guys had left for the day.
Overall, A Thousand Suns is a radical shift for the band, but it’s also a very uneven one. Linkin Park has always been about the synergy of its frontmen, but this time they feel like opposing forces, pulling in different directions in pursuit of reinvention.
As such, while there's some commanding moments (The Catalyst, Wretches and Kings), many of the tracks feel like experiments rather than fully-formed songs.
A Thousand Suns may well be Linkin Park’s great departure, but for now, their destination still feels unclear.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Kenny Jr on September 3, 2010 at 7:07am

I heard the opposite more Chester than Mike. More of his Dead by Sunrise sound. I loved HT. Reanimation was tight. Meteora was still sick. M2M was a major let down to me. The Catalyst was ok to me. Wretches and Kings, is just amazinthe openin makes me just cream haha.

F.T.I. said:

I read a review someone put up on a different site from a private listen thru they did, and they said the album is more of Mike and Chester is more of a backup singer, and that there's hardly any guitars, more techno type hybrid theory style beats. 

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Permalink Reply by ₡₱♛ on September 3, 2010 at 1:09pm

ive seen a bunch of reviews that say a bunch of different things, so im just gonna wait til my pre order gets here to decide lol

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Permalink Reply by E.Wills on September 4, 2010 at 12:21am

the track wretches and kings is dope

Cole said:

ive seen a bunch of reviews that say a bunch of different things, so im just gonna wait til my pre order gets here to decide lol

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Permalink Reply by ₡₱♛ on September 4, 2010 at 5:59am

for sure. one of the hardest tracks theyve released since meteora imo

E.Wills said:

the track wretches and kings is dope

Cole said:

ive seen a bunch of reviews that say a bunch of different things, so im just gonna wait til my pre order gets here to decide lol

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