Lets shut this guy down

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Permalink Reply by Crooked Cali on December 16, 2009 at 4:23am

Hahahaha....Yall motherfuckers are seriously making a big deal about a guy selling a sampler for 99 cents...."ive been after him awhile" "lets get him!! and report him!!" Hahahaha...Little internet detectives...fuckin snitches. Who gives a shit..Its not hurting anybody..If they are free to begin with then who cares. Dont knock someones hustle. It isn't reflecting negative on Tech N9ne or Strange Music..No lifers..

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Permalink Reply by mr64magic on December 16, 2009 at 3:07pm

I'm sure someone will buy it. like in some remote place like BF dakota who can't get to stores or stuff.

I've got the guys IP address of the computer it was sent from. We're working on it. working on a back door in.

The IT department is not really just for street team. I have properties and investements that I take care of for realestate investments and we run checks on the apartment building tenants and investors, and we can track down info on the commerical and multi-family no pays so we can get thier money in court or through our lawyer or collection agency. This is my job that pays my mortgage. I started Magic art werx and do the tech stuff as fun side job stuff while I decided to go back to school.

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Permalink Reply by mr64magic on December 16, 2009 at 3:11pm

i agree I have no life I admit it, I'm to damn busy with all I got going on. work and money and fam is life. Thanks though.....you brought to my attention that I need a vacation.....lol


Crooked Cali said:

Hahahaha....Yall motherfuckers are seriously making a big deal about a guy selling a sampler for 99 cents...."ive been after him awhile" "lets get him!! and report him!!" Hahahaha...Little internet detectives...fuckin snitches. Who gives a shit..Its not hurting anybody..If they are free to begin with then who cares. Dont knock someones hustle. It isn't reflecting negative on Tech N9ne or Strange Music..No lifers..

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Permalink Reply by Flicktion. on December 16, 2009 at 3:11pm

You guys are wasting your time and effort. Just contact Strange Music and bring it to their attention, they'll have that shit gone quick. Will be much quicker and effective than trying to play vigilante yourself.

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Permalink Reply by Crooked Cali on December 16, 2009 at 3:18pm

No problem buddy..Keep up the good work, detective!!! Lord knows we don't need another serial sampler seller out there roaming the internet!!

mr64magic said:

i agree I have no life I admit it, I'm to damn busy with all I got going on. work and money and fam is life. Thanks though.....you brought to my attention that I need a vacation.....lol


Crooked Cali said:

Hahahaha....Yall motherfuckers are seriously making a big deal about a guy selling a sampler for 99 cents...."ive been after him awhile" "lets get him!! and report him!!" Hahahaha...Little internet detectives...fuckin snitches. Who gives a shit..Its not hurting anybody..If they are free to begin with then who cares. Dont knock someones hustle. It isn't reflecting negative on Tech N9ne or Strange Music..No lifers..

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Permalink Reply by mr64magic on December 16, 2009 at 3:23pm

serial sampler seller Lmao....I like that one...

Crooked Cali said:

No problem buddy..Keep up the good work, detective!!! Lord knows we don't need another serial sampler seller out there roaming the internet!!

mr64magic said:

i agree I have no life I admit it, I'm to damn busy with all I got going on. work and money and fam is life. Thanks though.....you brought to my attention that I need a vacation.....lol


Crooked Cali said:

Hahahaha....Yall motherfuckers are seriously making a big deal about a guy selling a sampler for 99 cents...."ive been after him awhile" "lets get him!! and report him!!" Hahahaha...Little internet detectives...fuckin snitches. Who gives a shit..Its not hurting anybody..If they are free to begin with then who cares. Dont knock someones hustle. It isn't reflecting negative on Tech N9ne or Strange Music..No lifers..

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Permalink Reply by Techn9cian4life on December 16, 2009 at 3:23pm

The big deal isn't he's selling it for $0.99, it's that it's illegal to do what he's doing. Also, I'm on my winter break from classes, so I have an excuse to have no life : ) Thanks for passing judgement though, buddy : )

Crooked Cali said:

Hahahaha....Yall motherfuckers are seriously making a big deal about a guy selling a sampler for 99 cents...."ive been after him awhile" "lets get him!! and report him!!" Hahahaha...Little internet detectives...fuckin snitches. Who gives a shit..Its not hurting anybody..If they are free to begin with then who cares. Dont knock someones hustle. It isn't reflecting negative on Tech N9ne or Strange Music..No lifers..

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Permalink Reply by David on December 16, 2009 at 3:29pm

Maybe its fucked up that he is selling something you can get for free but it is not illegal by any means. If you own something you can do whatever you want with it. Now if he is a member of a street team and recieved them directly from strange I could see that maybe being an issue. But honestly I dont thinks its a big deal. And to the guy that said he reported him, remind me to never ever do anything illegal around you. No matter how you slice it thats a snitch.

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Permalink Reply by Flicktion. on December 16, 2009 at 3:40pm

Ahhhhhh, that makes a lot more sense.

mr64magic said:

The IT department is not really just for street team. I have properties and investements that I take care of for realestate investments and we run checks on the apartment building tenants and investors, and we can track down info on the commerical and multi-family no pays so we can get thier money in court or through our lawyer or collection agency. This is my job that pays my mortgage. I started Magic art werx and do the tech stuff as fun side job stuff while I decided to go back to school.

@ David- Yes, it really is illegal.

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Permalink Reply by B-CIDE on December 16, 2009 at 4:06pm

I see everyone going crazy over these NOT FOR SALE PROMO CDs. I'm sorry but some of you seam to be misinformed. It is 100% legal to sell promo CDs. If any of you want a good read about this subject I have copied and pasted it. This one seller of Promo CD's went up against the industry giant, Universal Music Group and WON.

UMG v. Augusto

The "first sale" doctrine expresses one of the most important limitations on the reach of copyright law. The idea, set out in Section 109 of the Copyright Act, is simple: once you've acquired a lawfully-made CD or book or DVD, you can lend, sell, or give it away without having to get permission from the copyright owner. In simpler terms, "you bought it, you own it" (and because first sale also applies to gifts, "they gave it to you, you own it," is also true).

But the copyright industries have never liked first sale, since it creates competition for their titles (you could borrow it from a friend, pick it up at a library, or buy it from a used book seller on Amazon). It also reduces their ability to impose restrictions on how you use the work after it is sold. For example, at the turn of the 20th century, book publishers tried to impose a minimum resale price on books by putting a notice in every copy. In the 1930s, record labels put "private use only, not for broadcast" notices on records in an attempt to block radio stations from playing their records without additional payment. In the 1980s, movie studios tried the same thing with video cassettes, trying to control the video rental business. Congress, the courts, and free markets have consistently rejected these efforts to undermine the first sale principle.

But that hasn't stopped Universal Music Group (UMG). In May 2007, UMG sued Roast Beast Music for auctioning "promo CDs" on eBay, CDs which Roast Beast Music had itself purchased from used record stores around Los Angeles. Apparently, UMG had been harassing a number of eBay sellers, sending bogus DMCA takedown notices to eBay, getting auctions suspended and accounts terminated.

EFF, assisted by the San Francisco law firm of Keker & Van Nest LLP, took up the case on behalf of Roast Beast Music, answering UMG's allegations and counter-suing for the bogus DMCA takedowns. The critical question is whether UMG can trump the first sale doctrine by printing "promotional use only, not for resale" notices on the CDs that they routinely give away to radio stations, journalists, and tastemakers of all kinds. Many of these CDs then find their way into the bins of used record stores.

If UMG is right, then copyright owners of all kinds can strip away our first sale rights by putting these kinds of "label licenses" on their wares. Next thing you know, CDs, books, DVDs, and video games could be festooned with "notices" that erode a customer's first sale, fair use, and other rights. Imagine, for example, books "for personal use only, not for library lending" or DVDs that say "not for rental for less than $1 per day."

Fortunately, UMG lost. In June 2008, the district court dismissed UMG's copyright claims, finding that the initial recipients of "promo CDs" own them, notwithstanding "not for resale" labels. The court rejected the notion that these labels create a "license" or that "promo CDs" are "loaned" by the record labels, and instead concluded that the CDs are gifts. According to the opinion, "UMG gives the Promo CDs to music industry insiders, never to be returned. ... Nor does the licensing label require the recipient to provide UMG with any benefit to retain possession."

UMG has appealed the decision to the Ninth Circuit. An appellate court victory against UMG will help cement the principle of first sale in copyright law -- once ownership has passed, copyright law no longer interferes with resale of lawfully made books, CDs, DVDs, or other copyrighted works.


Although I would not sell a promotional sampler CD on eBay, it is legal. All these promos are write-offs for record labels thus you will see a promo stamp or a hole punch through a barcode (those are marked for promotional use only)

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Permalink Reply by Flicktion. on December 16, 2009 at 4:19pm

Why would I take legal advice from someone who can't spell a four letter word?

B-CIDE said:

I see everyone going crazy over these NOT FOR SALE PROMO CDs. I'm sorry but some of you seam to be misinformed. It is 100% legal to sell promo CDs. If any of you want a good read about this subject I have copied and pasted it. This one seller of Promo CD's went up against the industry giant, Universal Music Group and WON.

UMG v. Augusto

The "first sale" doctrine expresses one of the most important limitations on the reach of copyright law. The idea, set out in Section 109 of the Copyright Act, is simple: once you've acquired a lawfully-made CD or book or DVD, you can lend, sell, or give it away without having to get permission from the copyright owner. In simpler terms, "you bought it, you own it" (and because first sale also applies to gifts, "they gave it to you, you own it," is also true).

But the copyright industries have never liked first sale, since it creates competition for their titles (you could borrow it from a friend, pick it up at a library, or buy it from a used book seller on Amazon). It also reduces their ability to impose restrictions on how you use the work after it is sold. For example, at the turn of the 20th century, book publishers tried to impose a minimum resale price on books by putting a notice in every copy. In the 1930s, record labels put "private use only, not for broadcast" notices on records in an attempt to block radio stations from playing their records without additional payment. In the 1980s, movie studios tried the same thing with video cassettes, trying to control the video rental business. Congress, the courts, and free markets have consistently rejected these efforts to undermine the first sale principle.

But that hasn't stopped Universal Music Group (UMG). In May 2007, UMG sued Roast Beast Music for auctioning "promo CDs" on eBay, CDs which Roast Beast Music had itself purchased from used record stores around Los Angeles. Apparently, UMG had been harassing a number of eBay sellers, sending bogus DMCA takedown notices to eBay, getting auctions suspended and accounts terminated.

EFF, assisted by the San Francisco law firm of Keker & Van Nest LLP, took up the case on behalf of Roast Beast Music, answering UMG's allegations and counter-suing for the bogus DMCA takedowns. The critical question is whether UMG can trump the first sale doctrine by printing "promotional use only, not for resale" notices on the CDs that they routinely give away to radio stations, journalists, and tastemakers of all kinds. Many of these CDs then find their way into the bins of used record stores.

If UMG is right, then copyright owners of all kinds can strip away our first sale rights by putting these kinds of "label licenses" on their wares. Next thing you know, CDs, books, DVDs, and video games could be festooned with "notices" that erode a customer's first sale, fair use, and other rights. Imagine, for example, books "for personal use only, not for library lending" or DVDs that say "not for rental for less than $1 per day."

Fortunately, UMG lost. In June 2008, the district court dismissed UMG's copyright claims, finding that the initial recipients of "promo CDs" own them, notwithstanding "not for resale" labels. The court rejected the notion that these labels create a "license" or that "promo CDs" are "loaned" by the record labels, and instead concluded that the CDs are gifts. According to the opinion, "UMG gives the Promo CDs to music industry insiders, never to be returned. ... Nor does the licensing label require the recipient to provide UMG with any benefit to retain possession."

UMG has appealed the decision to the Ninth Circuit. An appellate court victory against UMG will help cement the principle of first sale in copyright law -- once ownership has passed, copyright law no longer interferes with resale of lawfully made books, CDs, DVDs, or other copyrighted works.


Although I would not sell a promotional sampler CD on eBay, it is legal. All these promos are write-offs for record labels thus you will see a promo stamp or a hole punch through a barcode (those are marked for promotional use only)

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Permalink Reply by World Famous Dirty 530 on December 16, 2009 at 10:28pm

The back of the sampler clearly reads Not for sale.

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