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lol I think you meant being held back I don't think they were holding back at all 

Charles Weis said:

I think the whole song sucked tbh, but u can totally tell hop n tech are holding back
No, I mean holding back, if ur on a track with a group that's subpar and u don't do ur best, that's holding back. IMO, being held back is being told not to do ur best or something along those lines, held back implies there's a 3rd party involved, holding back implies its the doers idea/choice, or at least that's how i see it. If that response doesn't make sense, sorry, got shit going on around me, not putting much thought into my response
Sorry, meant that last reply to be in response to this. If u have a different interpretation of holding back and being held back, let me know, because under my definitions I definitely meant holding back, like I said I'm kinda flustered ATM so I might not have thought of another meaning

Dom Guzzman said:

lol I think you meant being held back I don't think they were holding back at all 

Charles Weis said:

I think the whole song sucked tbh, but u can totally tell hop n tech are holding back

lol do u really believe that ICP is gonna tell them to go wack on there project? thats just fuckin retarded.

Charles Weis said:

No, I mean holding back, if ur on a track with a group that's subpar and u don't do ur best, that's holding back. IMO, being held back is being told not to do ur best or something along those lines, held back implies there's a 3rd party involved, holding back implies its the doers idea/choice, or at least that's how i see it. If that response doesn't make sense, sorry, got shit going on around me, not putting much thought into my response

Its what I expected from the song, But I also think its the best ICP song I've heard, and Icp sucks....

But in the Juggalos' Defense The Gathering Of the Juggalos Has the best Hip Hop Line up this year

I said 3rd party, not ICP, don't jump to conclusions, not to mention I said that I think they chose to hold back, I never said I thought someone else told them not to rip the fuck outta that track, I just explained what I think the difference between holding back and being held back is. So to answer, no, I don't think that lol

tormented techn9cian said:

lol do u really believe that ICP is gonna tell them to go wack on there project? thats just fuckin retarded.

Charles Weis said:

No, I mean holding back, if ur on a track with a group that's subpar and u don't do ur best, that's holding back. IMO, being held back is being told not to do ur best or something along those lines, held back implies there's a 3rd party involved, holding back implies its the doers idea/choice, or at least that's how i see it. If that response doesn't make sense, sorry, got shit going on around me, not putting much thought into my response

well ur talkin bout this song so wat u mean dont jump to conclusions. say wat u mean or shut ur fuckin mouth fagget! u really think Tech and Hopsin are gonna write weak verses on purpose for a huge collab? ur even gayer then u look fuckin queer stuff a cock in it!

Charles Weis said:

I said 3rd party, not ICP, don't jump to conclusions, not to mention I said that I think they chose to hold back, I never said I thought someone else told them not to rip the fuck outta that track, I just explained what I think the difference between holding back and being held back is. So to answer, no, I don't think that lol

tormented techn9cian said:

lol do u really believe that ICP is gonna tell them to go wack on there project? thats just fuckin retarded.

Charles Weis said:

No, I mean holding back, if ur on a track with a group that's subpar and u don't do ur best, that's holding back. IMO, being held back is being told not to do ur best or something along those lines, held back implies there's a 3rd party involved, holding back implies its the doers idea/choice, or at least that's how i see it. If that response doesn't make sense, sorry, got shit going on around me, not putting much thought into my response

you think this is a huge colab? lol

tormented techn9cian said:

well ur talkin bout this song so wat u mean dont jump to conclusions. say wat u mean or shut ur fuckin mouth fagget! u really think Tech and Hopsin are gonna write weak verses on purpose for a huge collab? ur even gayer then u look fuckin queer stuff a cock in it!

Charles Weis said:

I said 3rd party, not ICP, don't jump to conclusions, not to mention I said that I think they chose to hold back, I never said I thought someone else told them not to rip the fuck outta that track, I just explained what I think the difference between holding back and being held back is. So to answer, no, I don't think that lol

tormented techn9cian said:

lol do u really believe that ICP is gonna tell them to go wack on there project? thats just fuckin retarded.

Charles Weis said:

No, I mean holding back, if ur on a track with a group that's subpar and u don't do ur best, that's holding back. IMO, being held back is being told not to do ur best or something along those lines, held back implies there's a 3rd party involved, holding back implies its the doers idea/choice, or at least that's how i see it. If that response doesn't make sense, sorry, got shit going on around me, not putting much thought into my response

overall ICP sold more then rappers like lil' wayne and others so if people are gonna say that a huge collab then yes. just cuz u dont like there music dont mean its not a big song dumbfuck.

matt meyer said:

you think this is a huge colab? lol

tormented techn9cian said:

well ur talkin bout this song so wat u mean dont jump to conclusions. say wat u mean or shut ur fuckin mouth fagget! u really think Tech and Hopsin are gonna write weak verses on purpose for a huge collab? ur even gayer then u look fuckin queer stuff a cock in it!

Charles Weis said:

I said 3rd party, not ICP, don't jump to conclusions, not to mention I said that I think they chose to hold back, I never said I thought someone else told them not to rip the fuck outta that track, I just explained what I think the difference between holding back and being held back is. So to answer, no, I don't think that lol

tormented techn9cian said:

lol do u really believe that ICP is gonna tell them to go wack on there project? thats just fuckin retarded.

Charles Weis said:

No, I mean holding back, if ur on a track with a group that's subpar and u don't do ur best, that's holding back. IMO, being held back is being told not to do ur best or something along those lines, held back implies there's a 3rd party involved, holding back implies its the doers idea/choice, or at least that's how i see it. If that response doesn't make sense, sorry, got shit going on around me, not putting much thought into my response

tbh idk how people say ICP fell off 6 years ago. All their old shit is sloppy as fuck imo. Obviously lyrically their shit is terrible, but their flow (which isn't even impressive) is a lot cleaner now.

That said, Hop and Tech killed it.

smfh.

the lil wayne collab was a huge song because it was spreading tech n9ne's name to people who have never heard his music before.

the majority of ICP fans are well aware of who tech n9ne is. this song is never going to be talked about on mtv, discussed in XXL, and probably won't get tech n9ne any new fans.

so tell me again how this is a huge collab?

EDIT: i hate lil wayne's music also, so your last sentence is irrelevant. 
tormented techn9cian said:

overall ICP sold more then rappers like lil' wayne and others so if people are gonna say that a huge collab then yes. just cuz u dont like there music dont mean its not a big song dumbfuck.

matt meyer said:

you think this is a huge colab? lol

tormented techn9cian said:

well ur talkin bout this song so wat u mean dont jump to conclusions. say wat u mean or shut ur fuckin mouth fagget! u really think Tech and Hopsin are gonna write weak verses on purpose for a huge collab? ur even gayer then u look fuckin queer stuff a cock in it!

Charles Weis said:

I said 3rd party, not ICP, don't jump to conclusions, not to mention I said that I think they chose to hold back, I never said I thought someone else told them not to rip the fuck outta that track, I just explained what I think the difference between holding back and being held back is. So to answer, no, I don't think that lol

tormented techn9cian said:

lol do u really believe that ICP is gonna tell them to go wack on there project? thats just fuckin retarded.

Charles Weis said:

No, I mean holding back, if ur on a track with a group that's subpar and u don't do ur best, that's holding back. IMO, being held back is being told not to do ur best or something along those lines, held back implies there's a 3rd party involved, holding back implies its the doers idea/choice, or at least that's how i see it. If that response doesn't make sense, sorry, got shit going on around me, not putting much thought into my response
The only ones benefitting from this "huge" collaboration Is ICP. They're a shitty group, with shitty sound, and shitty lyrics. Tech and hopsin did their thing, unfortuantely it was on a wasted track.


tormented techn9cian said:

well ur talkin bout this song so wat u mean dont jump to conclusions. say wat u mean or shut ur fuckin mouth fagget! u really think Tech and Hopsin are gonna write weak verses on purpose for a huge collab? ur even gayer then u look fuckin queer stuff a cock in it!

Charles Weis said:

I said 3rd party, not ICP, don't jump to conclusions, not to mention I said that I think they chose to hold back, I never said I thought someone else told them not to rip the fuck outta that track, I just explained what I think the difference between holding back and being held back is. So to answer, no, I don't think that lol

tormented techn9cian said:

lol do u really believe that ICP is gonna tell them to go wack on there project? thats just fuckin retarded.

Charles Weis said:

No, I mean holding back, if ur on a track with a group that's subpar and u don't do ur best, that's holding back. IMO, being held back is being told not to do ur best or something along those lines, held back implies there's a 3rd party involved, holding back implies its the doers idea/choice, or at least that's how i see it. If that response doesn't make sense, sorry, got shit going on around me, not putting much thought into my response

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