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Didnt like it at all.

i never said nothin bout whos benefitting more i said u cant say its not a big song if people think the wayne one was u fuckin assclown!

matt meyer said:

smfh.

the lil wayne collab was a huge song because it was spreading tech n9ne's name to people who have never heard his music before.

the majority of ICP fans are well aware of who tech n9ne is. this song is never going to be talked about on mtv, discussed in XXL, and probably won't get tech n9ne any new fans.

so tell me again how this is a huge collab?

EDIT: i hate lil wayne's music also, so your last sentence is irrelevant. 
tormented techn9cian said:

overall ICP sold more then rappers like lil' wayne and others so if people are gonna say that a huge collab then yes. just cuz u dont like there music dont mean its not a big song dumbfuck.

matt meyer said:

you think this is a huge colab? lol

tormented techn9cian said:

well ur talkin bout this song so wat u mean dont jump to conclusions. say wat u mean or shut ur fuckin mouth fagget! u really think Tech and Hopsin are gonna write weak verses on purpose for a huge collab? ur even gayer then u look fuckin queer stuff a cock in it!

Charles Weis said:

I said 3rd party, not ICP, don't jump to conclusions, not to mention I said that I think they chose to hold back, I never said I thought someone else told them not to rip the fuck outta that track, I just explained what I think the difference between holding back and being held back is. So to answer, no, I don't think that lol

tormented techn9cian said:

lol do u really believe that ICP is gonna tell them to go wack on there project? thats just fuckin retarded.

Charles Weis said:

No, I mean holding back, if ur on a track with a group that's subpar and u don't do ur best, that's holding back. IMO, being held back is being told not to do ur best or something along those lines, held back implies there's a 3rd party involved, holding back implies its the doers idea/choice, or at least that's how i see it. If that response doesn't make sense, sorry, got shit going on around me, not putting much thought into my response

tormented techn9cian hella mad

lol

This..wow
 
Cole said:

tormented techn9cian hella mad

Lol, calm down kid. I'm not gonna sit here n explain a stance I don't even hold. I think ur missing the point though. If the person ur on a track with has shitty verses, u can either 1. Blow them out of the water, or 2. Be nice and write An ok verse that's still better than them but not the best you can do, THAT'S WHAT HOLDING BACK IS. If u think that's thebest verse Tech could've wrote for that song, then u seriously underestimate Techs skill, I think both Hop and Tech understand they don't need to put in THAT much effort to out-do ICP. And I'm probably gayer than I look because i am gay. Which, would actually make Perfect sense, considering all my friends were surprised when I came out. So u got something right, despite having the most bland insult in the world, but maybe I'll take ur advice ;)

tormented techn9cian said:

well ur talkin bout this song so wat u mean dont jump to conclusions. say wat u mean or shut ur fuckin mouth fagget! u really think Tech and Hopsin are gonna write weak verses on purpose for a huge collab? ur even gayer then u look fuckin queer stuff a cock in it!

Charles Weis said:

I said 3rd party, not ICP, don't jump to conclusions, not to mention I said that I think they chose to hold back, I never said I thought someone else told them not to rip the fuck outta that track, I just explained what I think the difference between holding back and being held back is. So to answer, no, I don't think that lol

tormented techn9cian said:

lol do u really believe that ICP is gonna tell them to go wack on there project? thats just fuckin retarded.

Charles Weis said:

No, I mean holding back, if ur on a track with a group that's subpar and u don't do ur best, that's holding back. IMO, being held back is being told not to do ur best or something along those lines, held back implies there's a 3rd party involved, holding back implies its the doers idea/choice, or at least that's how i see it. If that response doesn't make sense, sorry, got shit going on around me, not putting much thought into my response

lolol someone is mad that they're wrong.

i've already explained why it's not a big song.

that's like saying Drake ft. niki minaj is a huge collab. While that song is likely to be popular, they still have the same fanbase of millions of teenage girls, so neither of them are going to gain any fans as a result.


tormented techn9cian said:

i never said nothin bout whos benefitting more i said u cant say its not a big song if people think the wayne one was u fuckin assclown!

matt meyer said:

smfh.

the lil wayne collab was a huge song because it was spreading tech n9ne's name to people who have never heard his music before.

the majority of ICP fans are well aware of who tech n9ne is. this song is never going to be talked about on mtv, discussed in XXL, and probably won't get tech n9ne any new fans.

so tell me again how this is a huge collab?

EDIT: i hate lil wayne's music also, so your last sentence is irrelevant. 
tormented techn9cian said:

overall ICP sold more then rappers like lil' wayne and others so if people are gonna say that a huge collab then yes. just cuz u dont like there music dont mean its not a big song dumbfuck.

matt meyer said:

you think this is a huge colab? lol

tormented techn9cian said:

well ur talkin bout this song so wat u mean dont jump to conclusions. say wat u mean or shut ur fuckin mouth fagget! u really think Tech and Hopsin are gonna write weak verses on purpose for a huge collab? ur even gayer then u look fuckin queer stuff a cock in it!

Charles Weis said:

I said 3rd party, not ICP, don't jump to conclusions, not to mention I said that I think they chose to hold back, I never said I thought someone else told them not to rip the fuck outta that track, I just explained what I think the difference between holding back and being held back is. So to answer, no, I don't think that lol

tormented techn9cian said:

lol do u really believe that ICP is gonna tell them to go wack on there project? thats just fuckin retarded.

Charles Weis said:

No, I mean holding back, if ur on a track with a group that's subpar and u don't do ur best, that's holding back. IMO, being held back is being told not to do ur best or something along those lines, held back implies there's a 3rd party involved, holding back implies its the doers idea/choice, or at least that's how i see it. If that response doesn't make sense, sorry, got shit going on around me, not putting much thought into my response

This song is horrible. ICP is garbage. One of, if not the worst "rap" groups ever. 

i already edited ICP and the hooks out. im gonna upload it :)

DJ605 said:

Somebody..ANYBODY. Please start remixing this song and edit those stupid fucking juggalos outta there. If that happens, this track is dope.

lol this fuckin kid admits hes a fuckin cocksucker

Charles Weis said:

Lol, calm down kid. I'm not gonna sit here n explain a stance I don't even hold. I think ur missing the point though. If the person ur on a track with has shitty verses, u can either 1. Blow them out of the water, or 2. Be nice and write An ok verse that's still better than them but not the best you can do, THAT'S WHAT HOLDING BACK IS. If u think that's thebest verse Tech could've wrote for that song, then u seriously underestimate Techs skill, I think both Hop and Tech understand they don't need to put in THAT much effort to out-do ICP. And I'm probably gayer than I look because i am gay. Which, would actually make Perfect sense, considering all my friends were surprised when I came out. So u got something right, despite having the most bland insult in the world, but maybe I'll take ur advice ;)

tormented techn9cian said:

well ur talkin bout this song so wat u mean dont jump to conclusions. say wat u mean or shut ur fuckin mouth fagget! u really think Tech and Hopsin are gonna write weak verses on purpose for a huge collab? ur even gayer then u look fuckin queer stuff a cock in it!

Charles Weis said:

I said 3rd party, not ICP, don't jump to conclusions, not to mention I said that I think they chose to hold back, I never said I thought someone else told them not to rip the fuck outta that track, I just explained what I think the difference between holding back and being held back is. So to answer, no, I don't think that lol

tormented techn9cian said:

lol do u really believe that ICP is gonna tell them to go wack on there project? thats just fuckin retarded.

Charles Weis said:

No, I mean holding back, if ur on a track with a group that's subpar and u don't do ur best, that's holding back. IMO, being held back is being told not to do ur best or something along those lines, held back implies there's a 3rd party involved, holding back implies its the doers idea/choice, or at least that's how i see it. If that response doesn't make sense, sorry, got shit going on around me, not putting much thought into my response

This thread makes me Jazzmad.

People complaining about rapping clowns, do any of you take clowns at parties seriously? I don't think so. The whole point of their music is to be comical, cartoonish and goofy. They are not trying to be the best rappers ever, because what does that matter when your music is about goofy cartoon stuff. As far as the Jazzman concerned, anyone who throws hatred at ICP looks like an absolute idiot. Well done, you hated on clowns, goodluck in life. I am not a fan of ICP, but I know when to take something as serious and mature, and something as goofy and comical. Jazzman out to shoot some heroin and impreginate your crackhead mother to make a heroin crack baby which will soon be aborted and joyfully eaten on pizza.

lol, and? just because it's the internet doesn't mean I have to hide behind a veil of secrecy. you're acting like I admitted to eating shit or something haha. anyways, since u didn't reply to the actual issue we were discussing I'll assume u don't really have much to say, which is why u jumped to insults to begin with (although, being called gay isn't really an insult if I don't think it's a bad thing, so lol)

tormented techn9cian said:

lol this fuckin kid admits hes a fuckin cocksucker

Charles Weis said:

Lol, calm down kid. I'm not gonna sit here n explain a stance I don't even hold. I think ur missing the point though. If the person ur on a track with has shitty verses, u can either 1. Blow them out of the water, or 2. Be nice and write An ok verse that's still better than them but not the best you can do, THAT'S WHAT HOLDING BACK IS. If u think that's thebest verse Tech could've wrote for that song, then u seriously underestimate Techs skill, I think both Hop and Tech understand they don't need to put in THAT much effort to out-do ICP. And I'm probably gayer than I look because i am gay. Which, would actually make Perfect sense, considering all my friends were surprised when I came out. So u got something right, despite having the most bland insult in the world, but maybe I'll take ur advice ;)

tormented techn9cian said:

well ur talkin bout this song so wat u mean dont jump to conclusions. say wat u mean or shut ur fuckin mouth fagget! u really think Tech and Hopsin are gonna write weak verses on purpose for a huge collab? ur even gayer then u look fuckin queer stuff a cock in it!

Charles Weis said:

I said 3rd party, not ICP, don't jump to conclusions, not to mention I said that I think they chose to hold back, I never said I thought someone else told them not to rip the fuck outta that track, I just explained what I think the difference between holding back and being held back is. So to answer, no, I don't think that lol

tormented techn9cian said:

lol do u really believe that ICP is gonna tell them to go wack on there project? thats just fuckin retarded.

Charles Weis said:

No, I mean holding back, if ur on a track with a group that's subpar and u don't do ur best, that's holding back. IMO, being held back is being told not to do ur best or something along those lines, held back implies there's a 3rd party involved, holding back implies its the doers idea/choice, or at least that's how i see it. If that response doesn't make sense, sorry, got shit going on around me, not putting much thought into my response

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