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Permalink Reply by DYSFUNCTiONAL on September 1, 2010 at 4:39am You know what I hate more than the stereotypical juggalo assholes that are perpetuated on here? The stupid mother fuckers who make blanketed statements about all juggalos, act prejudiced against them, and pass judgements upon them based on limited if any personal experience. Maybe some of yall have met some prick juggalos. That doesnt mean that they all act the same way. Im met some prick mexicans, asians, blacks, whites... That doesnt mean every black, mexican, or whatever is a prick. Get a fucking life, take people as individuals, and listen to MLK. Content of character not color(s) of skin. End fucking topic.
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Permalink Reply by B-rent on September 1, 2010 at 10:35am First off, Im not a juggalo and I dont even like anybody on Psy except Twiztid.
Second, youre going to give me shit for trying to show how it is stupid to make blanketed about a group of people and using race as an example of how this is done but then you turn around and compare juggalos to nazis? Anybody that has paid attention on this site knows that you hate juggalos but I dont think youve ever said why. However, from what it has sounded like, youve met a couple stupid ones and decided to stereotype them all like that. Since you dont understand the comparison using race, Ill try another example. I met a huge Slayer fan who was an asshole but does that mean they all are? I know a whore who likes Jeezy but does that make all his fans whores? I know a Technician who is a drug addict with little chance of a good future? Is that true for all Tech fans? Especially in this day and age, it is so crazy to put people into boxes and stereotype them. Have people learned nothing from our history? To continue to act in this kind of ignorant fashion just astounds me. People are individualistic despite how people try to brand them. DYSFUNCTiONAL said:First of all a juggalo is not a race... so idk why you even compare them
Second, if a majority of juggalos are assholes and act like a bunch idiots.... why the fuck would you associate with that? Don't say "it's only a few juggalos that give them a bad image"... based on what I've seen, heard, and the several juggalos I have actually met and all the stupid shit they do... the MAJORITY of juggalos are immature and disrespectful pieces of shit, and if you are proud to call yourself a juggalo and represent that... then fuck you too If you're a good, level headed person calling yourself a Nazi... a lot of people are not going to like you regardless. (Yes Nazis are much more extreme than juggalos, but it's still a better example than comparing juggalos to an entire race) Ice Cold said:You know what I hate more than the stereotypical juggalo assholes that are perpetuated on here? The stupid mother fuckers who make blanketed statements about all juggalos, act prejudiced against them, and pass judgements upon them based on limited if any personal experience. Maybe some of yall have met some prick juggalos. That doesnt mean that they all act the same way. Im met some prick mexicans, asians, blacks, whites... That doesnt mean every black, mexican, or whatever is a prick. Get a fucking life, take people as individuals, and listen to MLK. Content of character not color(s) of skin. End fucking topic.
Permalink Reply by YOUNG GUN on September 1, 2010 at 11:13am i agree with DYSFUNCTIONAL. i do NOT agree with YOU. it would be ok if it were a FEW juggalos that were fuck offs, but every single god damn one i have seen, known, or even heard about. have all been fuck offs. when i was in highschool they always started fights and acted like 10 year olds. at tech concets they are the ones always causing the fights there. they are vandalizing and commiting crims and what not across the US. they are considered a GANG accord to the US police.
I have met maby 1 or 2 that have been decent people. and wanna know whats funny about that? THEY WERE OLD TIMER JUGGALOS. meaning they were the old school original ones.
so stfu with your shit kid. youre trying to debate and defend something that you cant defend anymore. oh...and the tila and method man incident just takes the cake.
EDIT: also, how he used the nazi thing as an example was actually a very well put example mind you. think about it....
Ice Cold said:First off, Im not a juggalo and I dont even like anybody on Psy except Twiztid.
Second, youre going to give me shit for trying to show how it is stupid to make blanketed about a group of people and using race as an example of how this is done but then you turn around and compare juggalos to nazis? Anybody that has paid attention on this site knows that you hate juggalos but I dont think youve ever said why. However, from what it has sounded like, youve met a couple stupid ones and decided to stereotype them all like that. Since you dont understand the comparison using race, Ill try another example. I met a huge Slayer fan who was an asshole but does that mean they all are? I know a whore who likes Jeezy but does that make all his fans whores? I know a Technician who is a drug addict with little chance of a good future? Is that true for all Tech fans? Especially in this day and age, it is so crazy to put people into boxes and stereotype them. Have people learned nothing from our history? To continue to act in this kind of ignorant fashion just astounds me. People are individualistic despite how people try to brand them. DYSFUNCTiONAL said:First of all a juggalo is not a race... so idk why you even compare them
Second, if a majority of juggalos are assholes and act like a bunch idiots.... why the fuck would you associate with that? Don't say "it's only a few juggalos that give them a bad image"... based on what I've seen, heard, and the several juggalos I have actually met and all the stupid shit they do... the MAJORITY of juggalos are immature and disrespectful pieces of shit, and if you are proud to call yourself a juggalo and represent that... then fuck you too If you're a good, level headed person calling yourself a Nazi... a lot of people are not going to like you regardless. (Yes Nazis are much more extreme than juggalos, but it's still a better example than comparing juggalos to an entire race) Ice Cold said:You know what I hate more than the stereotypical juggalo assholes that are perpetuated on here? The stupid mother fuckers who make blanketed statements about all juggalos, act prejudiced against them, and pass judgements upon them based on limited if any personal experience. Maybe some of yall have met some prick juggalos. That doesnt mean that they all act the same way. Im met some prick mexicans, asians, blacks, whites... That doesnt mean every black, mexican, or whatever is a prick. Get a fucking life, take people as individuals, and listen to MLK. Content of character not color(s) of skin. End fucking topic.
Permalink Reply by YOUNG GUN on September 1, 2010 at 11:17am
Permalink Reply by YOUNG GUN on September 1, 2010 at 11:20am Juggalos are fucking dumb mother fuckers, everybody keeps comparing shit well how about not they are worthless peices of shit i bet you cant find one fucking juggalo that has a real job they all live in trailer parks, or shit apartments, working at burger king or mcdonalds or like most dont even have a job or try to get one and all the ones ive seen need to take a bath so like i said before Juggalos suck dick and always will Juggalos = TRASH
Permalink Reply by B-rent on September 1, 2010 at 11:42am Kid? Arent you right out of high school? Maybe you should reread my shit a little slower next time and realize that Ive never defended the stupid shit that juggalos do or have done. All Ive said is that it is stupid for people to universally say that all juggalos (insert stereotype). Not because Im defending whatever they do or represent but because I think it is ignorant as hell to make such statements that completely envelop a group who was only conceived to support a music artist. Are there assholes in the group? Absolutely. Is there a greater ratio of juggalo assholes than most/any other group of individuals who support a music artist? I wouldnt doubt that. However, you two are equating being a juggalo to being uneducated, childish, white trash pricks. I find that insulting to those individuals who merely support psy for their music and do not participate in the ignorant antics. I have a sixteen year old cousin who listens to ICP and you would never know it. Hes very quiet, has never been in trouble, doesnt paint his face, or do any dumb shit. I was at my brother-in-law's house about a month ago and I found a bunch of ICP cds. He goes to concerts a couple times a month (I think its rock concerts but I dont really know). Hes in the Air Force, he doesnt paint his face, hes one of the nicest people Ive ever met, and hes never done the type of antics that yall talk about. So no, I could give a fuck if yall think that ICP fans have some of the most childish, inbred, god damn stupidest fucking people ever to walk on this planet. But to equate all ICP fans, juggalos, or whatever you want to call them to being the stereotypes that are perpetuated is simply ignorance.
By the way, juggalos arent universally considered to be a gang. There are only a select number of places that consider them gangs. For one thing, there is no universal standards for a group to be considered a gang. In fact, only about half of the law enforcement agencies in the U.S. say that a group has to commit crimes together in order to be considered a gang. In some places, having a least two members, a common name, a common symbol/hand sign/color, and gathering together is significant enough for a group to be considered a gang. Police departments have their own check list on what they consider to be a gang. So, in that area, there might be a group that call themselves juggalos that fall into the police departments definition of a gang but that does not mean that all juggalos are a gang or that the group necessarily is representative of juggalos as a whole. The one Ive always used as a reference and it seems like the majority of the police departments use as a basis is the one that is used by the FBI. According to that, juggalos are not a gang. And no, I did not pull a bunch of random shit off of the internet to support my claim. I actually have a degree in Criminal Justice.
And I will say it one last time because I know Im going to get a "fuck you" response, I do not support the transgressions that occur in the name of juggalos or ICP. I am only saying that I do not believe that in making stereotypical blanketed statements about ANY group of individuals whos purpose was not that of the statement.
Permalink Reply by B-rent on September 1, 2010 at 12:06pm Silly me. I actually thought you would have a grown up discussion. I guess I underestimated your maturity. Oh well, once a crybaby prick, always a crybaby prick.
B-rent said:i stoped after reading "Arent you right out of high school? " im 23 and in college.
im loling so fucking hard at your essay you just typed. mad much? stop wasting your time with that shit.
Ice Cold said:Kid? Arent you right out of high school? Maybe you should reread my shit a little slower next time and realize that Ive never defended the stupid shit that juggalos do or have done. All Ive said is that it is stupid for people to universally say that all juggalos (insert stereotype). Not because Im defending whatever they do or represent but because I think it is ignorant as hell to make such statements that completely envelop a group who was only conceived to support a music artist. Are there assholes in the group? Absolutely. Is there a greater ratio of juggalo assholes than most/any other group of individuals who support a music artist? I wouldnt doubt that. However, you two are equating being a juggalo to being uneducated, childish, white trash pricks. I find that insulting to those individuals who merely support psy for their music and do not participate in the ignorant antics. I have a sixteen year old cousin who listens to ICP and you would never know it. Hes very quiet, has never been in trouble, doesnt paint his face, or do any dumb shit. I was at my brother-in-law's house about a month ago and I found a bunch of ICP cds. He goes to concerts a couple times a month (I think its rock concerts but I dont really know). Hes in the Air Force, he doesnt paint his face, hes one of the nicest people Ive ever met, and hes never done the type of antics that yall talk about. So no, I could give a fuck if yall think that ICP fans have some of the most childish, inbred, god damn stupidest fucking people ever to walk on this planet. But to equate all ICP fans, juggalos, or whatever you want to call them to being the stereotypes that are perpetuated is simply ignorance.
By the way, juggalos arent universally considered to be a gang. There are only a select number of places that consider them gangs. For one thing, there is no universal standards for a group to be considered a gang. In fact, only about half of the law enforcement agencies in the U.S. say that a group has to commit crimes together in order to be considered a gang. In some places, having a least two members, a common name, a common symbol/hand sign/color, and gathering together is significant enough for a group to be considered a gang. Police departments have their own check list on what they consider to be a gang. So, in that area, there might be a group that call themselves juggalos that fall into the police departments definition of a gang but that does not mean that all juggalos are a gang or that the group necessarily is representative of juggalos as a whole. The one Ive always used as a reference and it seems like the majority of the police departments use as a basis is the one that is used by the FBI. According to that, juggalos are not a gang. And no, I did not pull a bunch of random shit off of the internet to support my claim. I actually have a degree in Criminal Justice. And I will say it one last time because I know Im going to get a "fuck you" response, I do not support the transgressions that occur in the name of juggalos or ICP. I am only saying that I do not believe that in making stereotypical blanketed statements about ANY group of individuals whos purpose was not that of the statement.
Permalink Reply by B-rent on September 1, 2010 at 12:48pm Big difference between trying to have a debate and crying.
Two paragraphs of argument and factual information=debate
Screaming how you hate juggalos all over the internet because one spit on your mom years ago=crying
And Im not mad. Just futilely trying to deter ignorant stereotypical remarks and prejudices.
B-rent said:actually youre the one being the crybaby with the 30 paragraph essay you typed. LOL get mad
Ice Cold said:Silly me. I actually thought you would have a grown up discussion. I guess I underestimated your maturity. Oh well, once a crybaby prick, always a crybaby prick.
B-rent said:i stoped after reading "Arent you right out of high school? " im 23 and in college.
im loling so fucking hard at your essay you just typed. mad much? stop wasting your time with that shit.
Ice Cold said:Kid? Arent you right out of high school? Maybe you should reread my shit a little slower next time and realize that Ive never defended the stupid shit that juggalos do or have done. All Ive said is that it is stupid for people to universally say that all juggalos (insert stereotype). Not because Im defending whatever they do or represent but because I think it is ignorant as hell to make such statements that completely envelop a group who was only conceived to support a music artist. Are there assholes in the group? Absolutely. Is there a greater ratio of juggalo assholes than most/any other group of individuals who support a music artist? I wouldnt doubt that. However, you two are equating being a juggalo to being uneducated, childish, white trash pricks. I find that insulting to those individuals who merely support psy for their music and do not participate in the ignorant antics. I have a sixteen year old cousin who listens to ICP and you would never know it. Hes very quiet, has never been in trouble, doesnt paint his face, or do any dumb shit. I was at my brother-in-law's house about a month ago and I found a bunch of ICP cds. He goes to concerts a couple times a month (I think its rock concerts but I dont really know). Hes in the Air Force, he doesnt paint his face, hes one of the nicest people Ive ever met, and hes never done the type of antics that yall talk about. So no, I could give a fuck if yall think that ICP fans have some of the most childish, inbred, god damn stupidest fucking people ever to walk on this planet. But to equate all ICP fans, juggalos, or whatever you want to call them to being the stereotypes that are perpetuated is simply ignorance.
By the way, juggalos arent universally considered to be a gang. There are only a select number of places that consider them gangs. For one thing, there is no universal standards for a group to be considered a gang. In fact, only about half of the law enforcement agencies in the U.S. say that a group has to commit crimes together in order to be considered a gang. In some places, having a least two members, a common name, a common symbol/hand sign/color, and gathering together is significant enough for a group to be considered a gang. Police departments have their own check list on what they consider to be a gang. So, in that area, there might be a group that call themselves juggalos that fall into the police departments definition of a gang but that does not mean that all juggalos are a gang or that the group necessarily is representative of juggalos as a whole. The one Ive always used as a reference and it seems like the majority of the police departments use as a basis is the one that is used by the FBI. According to that, juggalos are not a gang. And no, I did not pull a bunch of random shit off of the internet to support my claim. I actually have a degree in Criminal Justice. And I will say it one last time because I know Im going to get a "fuck you" response, I do not support the transgressions that occur in the name of juggalos or ICP. I am only saying that I do not believe that in making stereotypical blanketed statements about ANY group of individuals whos purpose was not that of the statement.
Permalink Reply by DYSFUNCTiONAL on September 1, 2010 at 12:56pm First off, Im not a juggalo and I dont even like anybody on Psy except Twiztid.
Second, youre going to give me shit for trying to show how it is stupid to make blanketed about a group of people and using race as an example of how this is done but then you turn around and compare juggalos to nazis? Anybody that has paid attention on this site knows that you hate juggalos but I dont think youve ever said why. However, from what it has sounded like, youve met a couple stupid ones and decided to stereotype them all like that. Since you dont understand the comparison using race, Ill try another example. I met a huge Slayer fan who was an asshole but does that mean they all are? I know a whore who likes Jeezy but does that make all his fans whores? I know a Technician who is a drug addict with little chance of a good future? Is that true for all Tech fans? Especially in this day and age, it is so crazy to put people into boxes and stereotype them. Have people learned nothing from our history? To continue to act in this kind of ignorant fashion just astounds me. People are individualistic despite how people try to brand them.
DYSFUNCTiONAL said:First of all a juggalo is not a race... so idk why you even compare them
Second, if a majority of juggalos are assholes and act like a bunch idiots.... why the fuck would you associate with that? Don't say "it's only a few juggalos that give them a bad image"... based on what I've seen, heard, and the several juggalos I have actually met and all the stupid shit they do... the MAJORITY of juggalos are immature and disrespectful pieces of shit, and if you are proud to call yourself a juggalo and represent that... then fuck you too If you're a good, level headed person calling yourself a Nazi... a lot of people are not going to like you regardless. (Yes Nazis are much more extreme than juggalos, but it's still a better example than comparing juggalos to an entire race)
Ice Cold said:You know what I hate more than the stereotypical juggalo assholes that are perpetuated on here? The stupid mother fuckers who make blanketed statements about all juggalos, act prejudiced against them, and pass judgements upon them based on limited if any personal experience. Maybe some of yall have met some prick juggalos. That doesnt mean that they all act the same way. Im met some prick mexicans, asians, blacks, whites... That doesnt mean every black, mexican, or whatever is a prick. Get a fucking life, take people as individuals, and listen to MLK. Content of character not color(s) of skin. End fucking topic.
Permalink Reply by DYSFUNCTiONAL on September 1, 2010 at 1:30pm Kid? Arent you right out of high school? Maybe you should reread my shit a little slower next time and realize that Ive never defended the stupid shit that juggalos do or have done. All Ive said is that it is stupid for people to universally say that all juggalos (insert stereotype). Not because Im defending whatever they do or represent but because I think it is ignorant as hell to make such statements that completely envelop a group who was only conceived to support a music artist. Are there assholes in the group? Absolutely. Is there a greater ratio of juggalo assholes than most/any other group of individuals who support a music artist? I wouldnt doubt that. However, you two are equating being a juggalo to being uneducated, childish, white trash pricks. I find that insulting to those individuals who merely support psy for their music and do not participate in the ignorant antics. I have a sixteen year old cousin who listens to ICP and you would never know it. Hes very quiet, has never been in trouble, doesnt paint his face, or do any dumb shit. I was at my brother-in-law's house about a month ago and I found a bunch of ICP cds. He goes to concerts a couple times a month (I think its rock concerts but I dont really know). Hes in the Air Force, he doesnt paint his face, hes one of the nicest people Ive ever met, and hes never done the type of antics that yall talk about. So no, I could give a fuck if yall think that ICP fans have some of the most childish, inbred, god damn stupidest fucking people ever to walk on this planet. But to equate all ICP fans, juggalos, or whatever you want to call them to being the stereotypes that are perpetuated is simply ignorance.
By the way, juggalos arent universally considered to be a gang. There are only a select number of places that consider them gangs. For one thing, there is no universal standards for a group to be considered a gang. In fact, only about half of the law enforcement agencies in the U.S. say that a group has to commit crimes together in order to be considered a gang. In some places, having a least two members, a common name, a common symbol/hand sign/color, and gathering together is significant enough for a group to be considered a gang. Police departments have their own check list on what they consider to be a gang. So, in that area, there might be a group that call themselves juggalos that fall into the police departments definition of a gang but that does not mean that all juggalos are a gang or that the group necessarily is representative of juggalos as a whole. The one Ive always used as a reference and it seems like the majority of the police departments use as a basis is the one that is used by the FBI. According to that, juggalos are not a gang. And no, I did not pull a bunch of random shit off of the internet to support my claim. I actually have a degree in Criminal Justice.
And I will say it one last time because I know Im going to get a "fuck you" response, I do not support the transgressions that occur in the name of juggalos or ICP. I am only saying that I do not believe that in making stereotypical blanketed statements about ANY group of individuals whos purpose was not that of the statement.
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