There are too many people (Republicans) that are trying to make it harder for minorities, students, etc. to vote so it's imperative that those of us who can make sure we do. Voter ID laws address the least common form of voter fraud, yet they are the most common form of legislation used and affect and disable a large amount of people from voting on time (mainly people who would likely vote for the Democratic party). 25% of African Americans don't have Photo-Identification and approx. 17-18% of Latinos don't either. Out of state students can't use their school IDs as proper identification to vote, but NRA members can use their fire-arm permits. Seems awfully one-sided isn't it? I live in Florida (where we have a history of voter fraud) so I know I'm going to exercise my right to vote and I think this discussion board could use a new topic. Sorry to all the international users :P obviously feel free to voice your input. Now, if you live in Alabama, sorry but Romney's gonna win that state, I still say get out and vote! but I understand if you don't want to either lol. But for the people in the swing states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, etc. PLEASE vote. There's gonna be a lot of people that show up and get told no. And it doesn't help that voting is done from 7am-7pm, making it already harder for 9-5 hour working citizens. Personally I think it should be a holiday where we get the day off, but Republicans have said over and over, they don't want more people voting, they want less voters. So please, get out there.
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Permalink Reply by Charles Weis on September 29, 2012 at 3:59pm
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Permalink Reply by Charles Weis on September 29, 2012 at 4:08pm and I don't want to get into an actual political debate here. I'm not voting Obama or Romney, I'm voting Jill Stein personally. I just want people to understand that rights are being taken away and that they should get out and vote. I'm not going to argue Obama vs. Romney (though I could for days on end). I just wanted to raise awareness. But I'm sure that a debate will/might ensue so if it does then fine haha.
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Permalink Reply by Charles Weis on September 29, 2012 at 4:22pm this is not what it looks like from the thumbnail either lol. for those who haven't seen it's a hilarious ad with Samuel L Jackson
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Permalink Reply by Las Vegas Hustle on September 29, 2012 at 4:52pm DAMN YOU ARE A SHARP INDIVIDUAL.. PROPS TO THAT POST. Romney also wants to get rid of ALL UNIONS.. NO GOOD.. I am not that educated when it comes to politics just try to simplify things. if u make less than $ 250,000 a year the Republican policies and practices are no good for you and your family. Wont Help you at all. YOUTUBE " Mitt Romney 47 Percent" PLEASE. Video is only about 1 an 15 seconds long. Get' em Weis..
Permalink Reply by Charles Weis on September 29, 2012 at 5:27pm Thank you haha. Romney wants to do so many god awful things I don't understand how anyone can vote for him. If people don't like Obama fine, I get that, I don't like him either, which is why I'm voting Jill Stein. I urge people to vote 3rd party instead of blue and red since they all serve the corporations anyways. And I've seen the 47% percent video. It's hilarious the things he doesn't mention is that the 47% percent of people who don't pay income tax include senior citizens, working poor, students and people in the military (whoops) (and his corporate buddies lol). And when you take out senior citizens alone your left with only 7% that don't pay income tax. And even then 2/3 of that 47% still pay federal payroll taxes. And ALL of us pay sales taxes. So that man is amazing. Lol wait 'til you see this. 533 straight LIES in 30 weeks and more since then. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/08/29/mitt-romney-tel... No one except the rich is voting FOR Romney, they're voting AGAINST Obama, which is bullshit. Vote Gary Johnson instead, or vote Rocky Anderson, or Jill Stein. There's more people on the ballot people! Change has to start somewhere, I'm tired of hearing the "3rd party voting is a waste" argument, you're right, INDIVIDUALS do nothing, but hopefully me voting 3rd party can inspire others around me to as well, and not only that, but what if you took that mentality to protests? imagine if the civil rights movement never happened because people thought "Ohh, what could one voice or one person do?" same as one vote 'n it's true, one person doesn't but it's gotta start somewhere. Sorry if I went on a rant there. Lol, voting is just so important. I can't stand people who are apathetic about it, politics runs EVERY part of our lives so why would you just turn a blind eye? I understand that the system is programmed to work us hard enough to not pay attention or get up and make a change but keep us complacent enough to think "ohh it could be worse" but we can't be content. Maybe it's easier for me to just say because I'm a part-time student and don't really have responsibilities yet, but I just hate to see people look at politics like "ehh, not that important" Now, with all that said, there's a lot of serious criticisms of Obama like NDAA (biggest one imo), lack of campaign finance reform, and his weak handling of the banks, I want people to be upset with him. I don't want people to think they have only 2 choices. But people also need to remember that it's not only about our presidential race, local elections are VERY important. But what sucks is with Super-PACS any candidate that's willing to do a corporations bidding just gets a bunch of money dumped into their campaign and in a local primary or election it's very easy to blow the competition out of the water. Until Citizens United is overturned, the working man's candidate will never win. We'll always have a Corporation candidate, but... Obama realistically is the lesser of two evils.
Las Vegas Hustle said:
DAMN YOU ARE A SHARP INDIVIDUAL.. PROPS TO THAT POST. Romney also wants to get rid of ALL UNIONS.. NO GOOD.. I am not that educated when it comes to politics just try to simplify things. if u make less than $ 250,000 a year the Republican policies and practices are no good for you and your family. Wont Help you at all. YOUTUBE " Mitt Romney 47 Percent" PLEASE. Video is only about 1 an 15 seconds long. Get' em Weis..
Permalink Reply by DJ605 on September 29, 2012 at 5:38pm Unfortunately, I live in South Dakota so I'm about 99.9% sure that Romney will win it here. I'm still going to show my support and get out there and vote for Obama though. Mitt Romney is a fucking idiot, and I really don't think he will win, but the thought of him being the president is terrifying. The only thing that is more terrifying was the thought of John McCain winning the last electing, dying while in office, and then by default Sarah Palin would be our president. I would have straight up moved out of the country if that would have happened, lol.
Permalink Reply by Charles Weis on September 29, 2012 at 5:49pm yeah, that was scary, I could not imagine the "I can see Russia from my house" lady as our President and it ending well. People forget this shit has real consequences, it's fucking real life. It's more than just ohh you don't like him or this or that. It can cost people lives, it leads to wars, it leads to recessions that puts people out of jobs and into poverty. I'm glad you're still voting though, judging by polls Romney really has no chance except for voter-ID laws and people not voting. He's down in Ohio by 10 points, Florida by 9, Pennsylvania by 12, I know they're just polls, but in the last 15 elections the candidate with the lead 2 weeks after the last convention practically never loses, he's only leading in 2-3 swing states I think (and by slim margins) where as Obama is leading by strides in the majority of swing states. And a Republican has never won the presidency without winning Ohio in recent years. They're counting on us to not vote, or to not be able to, because they know they don't have us beat otherwise. It seems clear cut but that shouldn't stop people from getting out.
DJ605 said:
Unfortunately, I live in South Dakota so I'm about 99.9% sure that Romney will win it here. I'm still going to show my support and get out there and vote for Obama though. Mitt Romney is a fucking idiot, and I really don't think he will win, but the thought of him being the president is terrifying. The only thing that is more terrifying was the thought of John McCain winning the last electing, dying while in office, and then by default Sarah Palin would be our president. I would have straight up moved out of the country if that would have happened, lol.
Permalink Reply by Scurvy on September 29, 2012 at 6:00pm Know why I hate the Democratic Party? Because I'm not going to carry the lazy assholes in the country.
Republicans ideas of Survival of the Fittest is much more appealing.
I hate Romney and I hate Obama, so don't start raging.
Permalink Reply by Charles Weis on September 29, 2012 at 6:25pm Well to each his own but I believe that every person has the right to live. I understand that the system gets abused and that actually is a real problem so I'm not going to just defend it, but we're all one species, it's about time we grow the fuck up and realize that. We think we're the intelligent species on this planet but we still kill each other, funny aint it? Like I said, I understand your gripes, I just disagree. This is what's dividing us as a species and it's sickening to me personally. Call me an idealist, 'n maybe that's what it is, maybe we need another 100,000 years of evolution to figure it out, we're still EXTREMELY young in the grand scheme of things. As much as I believe Darwinism should get it's chance to run it's course, that doesn't get in my way of letting another human being survive. You don't have to carry them, tell the top 4% to pay a little more and we wouldn't have to gut our entitlement programs, or maybe actually do something conservative and cut the military spending (and let's stop calling it defense budget, we're not defending ourselves, it's the war budget). How can someone say that a flat tax rate is fair for someone making $30,000 a year and $3,000,000? let's say the rate is 25% it's not like the millionaire can't live off of the remaining 2,250,000 he made, meanwhile the working class citizen has to survive off of only $22,500, completely backwards. I'm not trying to attack the rich, but when you look at what the proposed tax rates and EFFECTIVE tax rates on the upper brackets in this country are we're so light on them it's hilarious. Warren Buffet says it's sad that his secretary gets taxed at a higher rate than he does. We all pay into these programs and as I said before, we ALL pay taxes, including sales taxes, and honestly, as long as someone's looking for work, I don't see the problem with staying on Welfare as long as you need to, just make sure you get by. Idk, maybe it's because there was a point where my mom had to live off of food stamps and welfare when I was a baby and she was able to bounce back on her feet. That safety net saves so many lives it's ridiculous, there are people who abuse it, but the whole point is to be there in case you fall down and need to get by until you can get back up on your own again, my mom was able to, granted we're not exactly in great conditions now, but she's had a stable job for many years now. Anyways, I'm glad you hate both Romney and Obama considering both are deserving of it. I'm not apart of the Democratic party myself so I could careless but I will defend certain things. haha, hope I don't come off as raging, not trying to attack you, just kinda started to get on a roll. Just like my previous comment to Las Vegas Hustle, snowball effect and all.
Scurvy said:
Know why I hate the Democratic Party? Because I'm not going to carry the lazy assholes in the country.
Republicans ideas of Survival of the Fittest is much more appealing.
I hate Romney and I hate Obama, so don't start raging.
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