Icp Vs. Tech Sales

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Permalink Reply by Dukecityspecialist on November 28, 2011 at 11:10am

Icp= huge gimmick/music is secondary
Tech= talented/actually can rap
Fuck record sales even vanilla Ice went platinum lol
RICH THE ROCKER said:

Currently Tech N9ne & Strange Music are the number 1 independent rapper & label.

ICP & Psychopathic Records,

Kottonmouth Kings and all of Suburban Noize,

Brotha Lynch & Siccmade/Madesicc,

Bone Thugs

Esham with RLP

E-40

just to name a few

have all sold a ton of fucking albums independently and at some points in they career they were number 1

 

the debate has been goin on for ages

 

BUT

 

sales dont mean shit when you in the thug pit

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Permalink Reply by Rich The RockeR (\S/) on November 28, 2011 at 11:16am

this is true

 

and i forgot three 6 mafia on the list with hypnotize minds, llc

Dukecityspecialist said:

Icp= huge gimmick/music is secondary
Tech= talented/actually can rap
Fuck record sales even vanilla Ice went platinum lol
RICH THE ROCKER said:

Currently Tech N9ne & Strange Music are the number 1 independent rapper & label.

ICP & Psychopathic Records,

Kottonmouth Kings and all of Suburban Noize,

Brotha Lynch & Siccmade/Madesicc,

Bone Thugs

Esham with RLP

E-40

just to name a few

have all sold a ton of fucking albums independently and at some points in they career they were number 1

 

the debate has been goin on for ages

 

BUT

 

sales dont mean shit when you in the thug pit

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Permalink Reply by Rich The RockeR (\S/) on November 28, 2011 at 11:18am

Dick Cavett: "Jimi people say you use gimmicks in your music"

 

Jimi Hendrix: "Gimmicks??? (haha) the WHOLE world is a gimmick"

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Permalink Reply by Dom Guzzman on November 28, 2011 at 11:54am

That awkward moment where someone restarts a thread from over 5 months and you don't even give a fuck to make a real response, but feel pressured to defend yourself as the thread starter

RICH THE ROCKER said:

Currently Tech N9ne & Strange Music are the number 1 independent rapper & label.

ICP & Psychopathic Records,

Kottonmouth Kings and all of Suburban Noize,

Brotha Lynch & Siccmade/Madesicc,

Bone Thugs

Esham with RLP

E-40

just to name a few

have all sold a ton of fucking albums independently and at some points in they career they were number 1

 

the debate has been goin on for ages

 

BUT

 

sales dont mean shit when you in the thug pit

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Permalink Reply by Jeff Nelson on November 28, 2011 at 1:46pm

Keep in mind that Tech has never built his entity with the help of a major label, where as ICP did so with breakthrough releases such as The Great Milenko and The Amazing Jeckel Brothers which were released under Island Records. J and Shaggy broke off in 2001 to be strictly independent with Psychopathic but had already built a large fanbase with releases that were funded with the major label machine. Radiohead has done similar but no one ever calls them the most successful indie band although they sell millions now without the help of a major.

Tech has built his entity entirely from the ground up which is the reason why we call him number one in this regard.

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Permalink Reply by Dom Guzzman on November 28, 2011 at 1:52pm

I do't understand people seem to forget that Tech was signed to JROC and Midwestside for 3 albums before Strange so don't come in here with that shit

Jeff Nelson said:

Keep in mind that Tech has never built his entity with the help of a major label, where as ICP did so with breakthrough releases such as The Great Milenko and The Amazing Jeckel Brothers which were released under Island Records. J and Shaggy broke off in 2001 to be strictly independent with Psychopathic but had already built a large fanbase with releases that were funded with the major label machine. Radiohead has done similar but no one ever calls them the most successful indie band although they sell millions now without the help of a major.

Tech has built his entity entirely from the ground up which is the reason why we call him number one in this regard.

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Permalink Reply by ₡₱♛ on November 28, 2011 at 2:31pm

JCOR*. And are you really trying to say that JCOR/Midwestside are on the same major level as Island? Completely different situations. Not comparable in any sense.

Dom Guzzman said:

I do't understand people seem to forget that Tech was signed to JROC and Midwestside for 3 albums before Strange so don't come in here with that shit

Jeff Nelson said:

Keep in mind that Tech has never built his entity with the help of a major label, where as ICP did so with breakthrough releases such as The Great Milenko and The Amazing Jeckel Brothers which were released under Island Records. J and Shaggy broke off in 2001 to be strictly independent with Psychopathic but had already built a large fanbase with releases that were funded with the major label machine. Radiohead has done similar but no one ever calls them the most successful indie band although they sell millions now without the help of a major.

Tech has built his entity entirely from the ground up which is the reason why we call him number one in this regard.

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Permalink Reply by Jake Stocker on November 28, 2011 at 2:35pm

Didn't wanna read through all the shit to find out if someone already said this, but isn't/wasn't ICP backed by Universal... therefore they haven't been fully Indie.. I could be wrong thos.. I don't know a god damn thing about that pittiful group.

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Permalink Reply by David on November 28, 2011 at 8:28pm

Milenko still is to this day, my favorite album ever made.  When I first heard it, I was like "Wow I've never heard anything like this before".  They've sold millions of albums because they made that first impression on alot of listeners. If it was just because of a Major label, they would of fell off years ago.  Hate all you want, but they outlasted alot of your traditional rappers. And if you ask me I think Tech and Trav are pretty much following right behind J and Shaggys footsteps, with the whole Technicians thing, and merchandising ideas.  ICP has Pioneered the way to independent success.

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Permalink Reply by Dom Guzzman on November 28, 2011 at 8:37pm

Right now ICP is on the same as Tech n9ne they're on there own label with distribution by Fontana records. that's how it's been forever for ICP and Tech except 2 ICP albums wich i didn't include in the sales, but people still have to bring up for some reason and i shouldn't say forever cause they've changed distribution over the years, but it's been the same run down of business.


Jake Stocker said:

Didn't wanna read through all the shit to find out if someone already said this, but isn't/wasn't ICP backed by Universal... therefore they haven't been fully Indie.. I could be wrong thos.. I don't know a god damn thing about that pittiful group.

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Permalink Reply by Dom Guzzman on November 28, 2011 at 8:42pm

And yes, at the time ICP was signed Hollywood records was doing nothing, but distribution for posthumous albums for Queen which no one was buying and they were going bankrupt ICP was there first band that sold so yea they are pretty comparable Hollywood wasn't as GIANT as people think they were 

Cole said:

JCOR*. And are you really trying to say that JCOR/Midwestside are on the same major level as Island? Completely different situations. Not comparable in any sense.

Dom Guzzman said:

I do't understand people seem to forget that Tech was signed to JROC and Midwestside for 3 albums before Strange so don't come in here with that shit

Jeff Nelson said:

Keep in mind that Tech has never built his entity with the help of a major label, where as ICP did so with breakthrough releases such as The Great Milenko and The Amazing Jeckel Brothers which were released under Island Records. J and Shaggy broke off in 2001 to be strictly independent with Psychopathic but had already built a large fanbase with releases that were funded with the major label machine. Radiohead has done similar but no one ever calls them the most successful indie band although they sell millions now without the help of a major.

Tech has built his entity entirely from the ground up which is the reason why we call him number one in this regard.

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Permalink Reply by DrMacYoHunny on November 28, 2011 at 9:22pm

Damn I.c.p. what a joke. Ha

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