hopsin or tyler the creator

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Permalink Reply by ֆӄʐ ♔ on July 25, 2011 at 5:49am

I was going to verbally rape you, but there is so much fail in that essay that I can only assume you wrote it out of defiance and abandoned all rationality. Opinion only gets you so far, yours however puts you in reverse.

"I said he will never be as big as OF is right now I will stick by that and a year from now we will see who is right...."

Fail. "he will never be as big as OF" .. "a year from now we will see who is right" Um? You said never, not a year from now. You take those words with you forever until you slap yourself in the mouth so hard you've joined us in reality, right around the time Hopsin blows up.

You miss the whole entire point of shock value, where is the shock if Marylin Manson, for example, tattoos a vagina on his back? Nobody is really shocked. Shock value is when big ears decides to eat a cockroach and freak all his teeny bopper listeners out only to cause a stir, "mainstream rapper eats cockroach on new music video" oooh how out there is that. If you can't see the shock value in that then you're only clowning yourself and looking for an argument where you can't defend your opinion. "Tool does it!" is a retarded argument.

 

Hop will blow up, denying that is stupid.

I didn't mean to kick a dead horse here pal, but damn, just stay down. lol.

 

Justin916 said:

LOL Alright here we go again.

!. I care less if you think Im retarded BOB is weak period and dont give me that "listen to his mixtape" bullshit cause hes just weak as fuck and all the internet shit talk in the world wont change my mind, my brother likes him and ive open-mindedly listened to all his shit and he is fucking WEAK. For me BOTTOM LINE dont care what anyone says O and Ya those are some of the weakest hip hop diss tracks Ive ever heard

2. If you read my first post I never said Hop wouldnt tour all over the world you ignorant fucks. I said he will never be as big as OF is right now I will stick by that and a year from now we will see who is right....

3. The Yonkers video is just that a music video. I dont see the supposed "shock value" you all do. So fucking what he ate a cockroack..Tool used to make music videos with wierd shit like that all day but I aint never heard anyone call them a "Shock Value" band and the list of wierd shit like that would go on and on when talking about mainstream music videos over the years. Fact is the kid had essentially no budget at all his music is already kinda dark and he made a video that he thought would be cool.
4. When yonkers came out it got buzz because people including big names in the game thought it was dope, not cause it was throwing shots at anyone. The line about BOB only became center of attention after BOB got butthurt
MikeN said:

Lol ok

1. First of all you're retarded if you think B.o.B's verse on Am I A Psycho was weak. It was one of the best verses on the entire album. You obviously just didnt understand his verse because the whole thing was him telling Tyler not to fuck with him since hes a psycho etc and he did it somewhat subliminally which was the point. So the fact that he didnt mention his name doesnt make him a pussy whatsoever it makes his verse that much doper cause he didnt even have to say Tyler's name once yet everyone knew exactly who the verse was directed at. And at the time when All 6s & 7s came out that song was all over hip hop sites, most of which saying "Tech N9ne - Am I A Psycho ft. Hopsin & B.o.B (Tyler the Creator diss)". So if you believe Tyler when he said he never heard Hopsin that makes me lol its pretty obvious he just said that to take the 'im more popular than you' easy way out.

2. Yeah we all know OF is more popular than Hopsin nobody is denying that. What you originaly said is Hopsin would never tour all over the world which has since been proven wrong.

3. The contacts might be a bit of a gimmick im not gonna deny that either but Tyler is also very gimmicky in a different way. His gimmick is his shock value. In all of the songs ive heard by him he just says/does a lot of strange, weird, or shocking shit to get peoples attention and its worked, like eating a damn cockroach in a music video.

4. Yeah this has given Hopsin a lot buzz no doubt kinda like what happened when Tylers Yonkers video came out and he ate a cockroach and dissed B.o.B. Hmmm. But Hopsin also had a good buzz going after Raw came out and it will continue to grow when Knock Madness drops.

So all that being said i think Hopsin is a much better rapper and overall artist.
Justin916 said:

First of all I will get this out the way I DO think Hopsin is a better rapper than Tyler.... Now:
1. You cant guarantee that cause you have no proof. Ever consider after how weak the "diss" from B.O.B was when he made a whole track that maybe Tyler just really didnt give a shit or perhaps pay it any attention. It was announced way before A6s7s dropped that BOB threw more shots but Tyler dont listen to Tech so you really think he was paying attention to when it dropped. Since he dont like tech he probably has never heard the album and its hardly a real diss since BOB is too pussy to drop a name he probably didnt care enought to listen to it. Plus Tyler said himself after Ill mind 4 he just heard of dude its not like Hop fired at him on Am I Psycho so he might not have paid any attention even if he did hear it.

2. Hopsin can tour all over but he plays in little ass clubs it dont compare to the 100,000+ crowds OF been playing to recently in Europe. Even their shows in America now are at couple thousand+ capacity venues and they are selling out waaaay in advance.

3.The contacts are still a gimmick, They are something other than his musical skill that draws attention to him and is something people remember him by and that is a gimmick. What I dont get is what is such a gimmick about Tyler the Creator. He is a young as kid who likes to skate and say shit that pisses people off, that sounds like damn near every kid his age. A kid saying fuck the world, fuck what you think, and name dropping rappers he doesnt like(B.O.B) isnt really a gimmick and it sure aint much different from what hopsins got goin on especially the name dropping.

4. As far a people posting lyrics from ill mind of facebook that also dont mean shit. Like I said before I like Hopsin but I would only see it as a sign of a growing fan base if you could get those same people to post something of his that isnt getting huge internet buzz from mainstream hip hop sites due to large amounts of disses toward names such as Tyler that all these mainstream kids are familiar with.
Cole said:

1. I guarantee Tyler has heard of Hopsin before. It was heavily publicized that B.o.B.'s verse on Am I A Psycho was a diss towards Tyler, and there's no way Tyler didn't listen to that track to hear the diss. Which means he would have heard Hopsin's verse.

2. Hopsin has toured the nation and is about to go on a tour in Australia. To say that Hop will never tour around the world ever is just dumb. He's at the beginning of his career and he's already doing that.

3. The contacts are as much of a gimmick as Tech's face paint is, or the red spiked hair. And the whole thing about Tomika Wright was his anger about his failed label situation. So I don't see how he's a gimmick rapper.

4. Hopsin will blow up. I've seen people on Facebook who's favorite rappers are Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane, and Waka Flocka Flame posting lyrics from Ill Mind 4. It will happen.

Justin916 said:

Tyler had never heard of hopsin until someone told him to listen to the ill mind 4. There would be absolutely no point in him responding cause it would do nothing for him and he dont even know hop or give a shit. Like them or not these kids are blowing the fuck up touring all over the world and doin things that hopsin will probably never accomplish (thats not a diss at hop either but be honest with yourself do you think he will ever be as big as OF...I sure dont) therefore the only person that stands to gain anything from Tyler responding would be hopsin. The thing I think is dumb about the diss is how Hopsin so adamantly calls tyler a gimmick rapper but what the fuck is hopsin with the contacts and songs about killing easy's wife and shit if not a gimmicky rapper himself, I like hop but just callin it like i see it.

george rego said:

Tyler is so... idk just cant get into his music. dont really know how this guy is as popular as he is. but back to the subject id go with Hopsin no doubt. as for tyler not dissn back idk to me seem like hes scured or something. if someone dissd me in a track i wouldnt use no "o im not dissn him back. he just wants some fame or what ever" idk to me thats just a lame excuse that everyone seems to use now a days. if tyler was in front of me id say hey stop being a stuck up bitch an diss him back. you got into music for a reason now battle that guy!!!

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Permalink Reply by Technition4life on July 25, 2011 at 11:20am

I have been a fan of both Hopsin and Tyler for over 2 years now and both are 2 of my favorite rappers. But i do feel like hop is dissing him to get more buzz. Wether people admit it or not Tyler and OF are blowing up right now and probably have one of the biggest buzz going on right now, so Hop is dissing Tyler to get buzz, thats just how i see it. I think its pretty stupid after he was just on Am I a Psycho with B.o.B. dissing tyler now for now reason he just disses him too. To me it seems like hop dissed him just to get his name out there to OF fans

 

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Permalink Reply by TalkSick on July 25, 2011 at 11:41am

both r dope for different reasons. but for the sake of not bein argued with, i dont really care about the "beef". i just b listenin ta shit i think is cool

p.s. i didnt read any of that big ass argument, so i appoligise for sayin sumthin they might have sed already n wasted ur time with my lame comment

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Permalink Reply by ＭʞƝ♕ on July 25, 2011 at 4:17pm

#winning

Also just to add to what Siikez said,

Thats fine if you think B.o.B is weak thats your opinion but it definately sounds like you have never given him a chance and probably only heard his popular songs that were on the radio. Maybe if you would take your head out of Tylers asshole you would relise how sick his verse on Am I A Psycho was.

I am not an ignorant fuck and no your wrong this is your exact quote was "Like them or not these kids are blowing the fuck up touring all over the world and doin things that hopsin will probably never accomplish"

Siikez covered the part about shock value.

And dont defend Tyler and his shitty video cause he didnt have a budget. Do you think Hopsin had any budget for any of his videos?? He directed and edited them all himself and all of his videos are 1000000X better than that Yonkers video lol.

Siikez said:

I was going to verbally rape you, but there is so much fail in that essay that I can only assume you wrote it out of defiance and abandoned all rationality. Opinion only gets you so far, yours however puts you in reverse.

"I said he will never be as big as OF is right now I will stick by that and a year from now we will see who is right...."

Fail. "he will never be as big as OF" .. "a year from now we will see who is right" Um? You said never, not a year from now. You take those words with you forever until you slap yourself in the mouth so hard you've joined us in reality, right around the time Hopsin blows up.

You miss the whole entire point of shock value, where is the shock if Marylin Manson, for example, tattoos a vagina on his back? Nobody is really shocked. Shock value is when big ears decides to eat a cockroach and freak all his teeny bopper listeners out only to cause a stir, "mainstream rapper eats cockroach on new music video" oooh how out there is that. If you can't see the shock value in that then you're only clowning yourself and looking for an argument where you can't defend your opinion. "Tool does it!" is a retarded argument.

 

Hop will blow up, denying that is stupid.

I didn't mean to kick a dead horse here pal, but damn, just stay down. lol.

 

Justin916 said:

LOL Alright here we go again.

!. I care less if you think Im retarded BOB is weak period and dont give me that "listen to his mixtape" bullshit cause hes just weak as fuck and all the internet shit talk in the world wont change my mind, my brother likes him and ive open-mindedly listened to all his shit and he is fucking WEAK. For me BOTTOM LINE dont care what anyone says O and Ya those are some of the weakest hip hop diss tracks Ive ever heard

2. If you read my first post I never said Hop wouldnt tour all over the world you ignorant fucks. I said he will never be as big as OF is right now I will stick by that and a year from now we will see who is right....

3. The Yonkers video is just that a music video. I dont see the supposed "shock value" you all do. So fucking what he ate a cockroack..Tool used to make music videos with wierd shit like that all day but I aint never heard anyone call them a "Shock Value" band and the list of wierd shit like that would go on and on when talking about mainstream music videos over the years. Fact is the kid had essentially no budget at all his music is already kinda dark and he made a video that he thought would be cool.
4. When yonkers came out it got buzz because people including big names in the game thought it was dope, not cause it was throwing shots at anyone. The line about BOB only became center of attention after BOB got butthurt
MikeN said:

Lol ok

1. First of all you're retarded if you think B.o.B's verse on Am I A Psycho was weak. It was one of the best verses on the entire album. You obviously just didnt understand his verse because the whole thing was him telling Tyler not to fuck with him since hes a psycho etc and he did it somewhat subliminally which was the point. So the fact that he didnt mention his name doesnt make him a pussy whatsoever it makes his verse that much doper cause he didnt even have to say Tyler's name once yet everyone knew exactly who the verse was directed at. And at the time when All 6s & 7s came out that song was all over hip hop sites, most of which saying "Tech N9ne - Am I A Psycho ft. Hopsin & B.o.B (Tyler the Creator diss)". So if you believe Tyler when he said he never heard Hopsin that makes me lol its pretty obvious he just said that to take the 'im more popular than you' easy way out.

2. Yeah we all know OF is more popular than Hopsin nobody is denying that. What you originaly said is Hopsin would never tour all over the world which has since been proven wrong.

3. The contacts might be a bit of a gimmick im not gonna deny that either but Tyler is also very gimmicky in a different way. His gimmick is his shock value. In all of the songs ive heard by him he just says/does a lot of strange, weird, or shocking shit to get peoples attention and its worked, like eating a damn cockroach in a music video.

4. Yeah this has given Hopsin a lot buzz no doubt kinda like what happened when Tylers Yonkers video came out and he ate a cockroach and dissed B.o.B. Hmmm. But Hopsin also had a good buzz going after Raw came out and it will continue to grow when Knock Madness drops.

So all that being said i think Hopsin is a much better rapper and overall artist.
Justin916 said:

First of all I will get this out the way I DO think Hopsin is a better rapper than Tyler.... Now:
1. You cant guarantee that cause you have no proof. Ever consider after how weak the "diss" from B.O.B was when he made a whole track that maybe Tyler just really didnt give a shit or perhaps pay it any attention. It was announced way before A6s7s dropped that BOB threw more shots but Tyler dont listen to Tech so you really think he was paying attention to when it dropped. Since he dont like tech he probably has never heard the album and its hardly a real diss since BOB is too pussy to drop a name he probably didnt care enought to listen to it. Plus Tyler said himself after Ill mind 4 he just heard of dude its not like Hop fired at him on Am I Psycho so he might not have paid any attention even if he did hear it.

2. Hopsin can tour all over but he plays in little ass clubs it dont compare to the 100,000+ crowds OF been playing to recently in Europe. Even their shows in America now are at couple thousand+ capacity venues and they are selling out waaaay in advance.

3.The contacts are still a gimmick, They are something other than his musical skill that draws attention to him and is something people remember him by and that is a gimmick. What I dont get is what is such a gimmick about Tyler the Creator. He is a young as kid who likes to skate and say shit that pisses people off, that sounds like damn near every kid his age. A kid saying fuck the world, fuck what you think, and name dropping rappers he doesnt like(B.O.B) isnt really a gimmick and it sure aint much different from what hopsins got goin on especially the name dropping.

4. As far a people posting lyrics from ill mind of facebook that also dont mean shit. Like I said before I like Hopsin but I would only see it as a sign of a growing fan base if you could get those same people to post something of his that isnt getting huge internet buzz from mainstream hip hop sites due to large amounts of disses toward names such as Tyler that all these mainstream kids are familiar with.
Cole said:

1. I guarantee Tyler has heard of Hopsin before. It was heavily publicized that B.o.B.'s verse on Am I A Psycho was a diss towards Tyler, and there's no way Tyler didn't listen to that track to hear the diss. Which means he would have heard Hopsin's verse.

2. Hopsin has toured the nation and is about to go on a tour in Australia. To say that Hop will never tour around the world ever is just dumb. He's at the beginning of his career and he's already doing that.

3. The contacts are as much of a gimmick as Tech's face paint is, or the red spiked hair. And the whole thing about Tomika Wright was his anger about his failed label situation. So I don't see how he's a gimmick rapper.

4. Hopsin will blow up. I've seen people on Facebook who's favorite rappers are Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane, and Waka Flocka Flame posting lyrics from Ill Mind 4. It will happen.

Justin916 said:

Tyler had never heard of hopsin until someone told him to listen to the ill mind 4. There would be absolutely no point in him responding cause it would do nothing for him and he dont even know hop or give a shit. Like them or not these kids are blowing the fuck up touring all over the world and doin things that hopsin will probably never accomplish (thats not a diss at hop either but be honest with yourself do you think he will ever be as big as OF...I sure dont) therefore the only person that stands to gain anything from Tyler responding would be hopsin. The thing I think is dumb about the diss is how Hopsin so adamantly calls tyler a gimmick rapper but what the fuck is hopsin with the contacts and songs about killing easy's wife and shit if not a gimmicky rapper himself, I like hop but just callin it like i see it.

george rego said:

Tyler is so... idk just cant get into his music. dont really know how this guy is as popular as he is. but back to the subject id go with Hopsin no doubt. as for tyler not dissn back idk to me seem like hes scured or something. if someone dissd me in a track i wouldnt use no "o im not dissn him back. he just wants some fame or what ever" idk to me thats just a lame excuse that everyone seems to use now a days. if tyler was in front of me id say hey stop being a stuck up bitch an diss him back. you got into music for a reason now battle that guy!!!

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Permalink Reply by Craig on July 26, 2011 at 1:59pm

Just because Hopsin isn't as well known as Tyler doesn't mean he isn't as good. Popularity and having your name known don't equal good music. Someone can be:1. horrible and huge, or 2.amazing and not huge. 

Examples: 1. Rebecca Black,Ke$ha, Waka Flocka Flame.  2. Tech N9NE,Hopsin.

Now not everyone who is big is bad, but they're not all great.

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Permalink Reply by Will on July 26, 2011 at 2:02pm

It seems like people are trying to back Tyler with him being "new" so they can feel like they're with him while he's going up.

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Permalink Reply by Insane1 on July 26, 2011 at 2:09pm

No idea what u talkin about the Friday song kicks ass

Craig said:

Just because Hopsin isn't as well known as Tyler doesn't mean he isn't as good. Popularity and having your name known don't equal good music. Someone can be:1. horrible and huge, or 2.amazing and not huge. 

Examples: 1. Rebecca Black,Ke$ha, Waka Flocka Flame.  2. Tech N9NE,Hopsin.

Now not everyone who is big is bad, but they're not all great.

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Permalink Reply by Techn9cian4life on July 26, 2011 at 3:31pm

I'll say it again... Yonkers is a terrible video. To the numbnuts who used the excuse of not having a high budget... Hopsin made Sag My Pants with a small budget, and that video kicks the shit out of the Yonkers video. Tyler just sits there on a stool, letting a bug crawl around on his hands. How does that get nominated for video of the year. Shit is stupid.

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Permalink Reply by sean diego on July 26, 2011 at 4:18pm

ive changed my mind about tyler

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Permalink Reply by sean diego on July 26, 2011 at 4:41pm

^^^^^ earl actually

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Permalink Reply by matt meyer on July 26, 2011 at 5:11pm

i would like to re-inforce this. if your gunna say "tyler is better cuz he has fame and money" you can't then say he didnt have any recorces to make his video. i GARUNTEE that watever recorces he had, hopsin had ALOT less. dude came off of ruthless with absolutly nothing. he was almost homeless. since he dropped raw he has started making a bit more change... but the dude uses fucking FL studios 3..... still wanna talk about recorces?

Techn9cian4life said:

I'll say it again... Yonkers is a terrible video. To the numbnuts who used the excuse of not having a high budget... Hopsin made Sag My Pants with a small budget, and that video kicks the shit out of the Yonkers video. Tyler just sits there on a stool, letting a bug crawl around on his hands. How does that get nominated for video of the year. Shit is stupid.

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Permalink Reply by Justin916 on July 26, 2011 at 5:27pm

I was going to leave this topic alone but I now have to say one final thing since people run their mouths but its obvious that they didnt actually read what I posted before. First of all I did say Hopsin is a better rapper than Tyler yet almost every response has been some idiot thinking I said the opposite. Yonkers is what blew tyler up before that video they had no money or record deal therefor just enough budget for a stool and a cockroach whats that 20$. Every odd future recording was recorded in their DJ's spare bedroom with the exact same type equipment as FL studios. They have never recorded anything in a big studio not even goblin which was released through XL(a small label outta london,not the huge major people keep making it out to be).

matt meyer said:

i would like to re-inforce this. if your gunna say "tyler is better cuz he has fame and money" you can't then say he didnt have any recorces to make his video. i GARUNTEE that watever recorces he had, hopsin had ALOT less. dude came off of ruthless with absolutly nothing. he was almost homeless. since he dropped raw he has started making a bit more change... but the dude uses fucking FL studios 3..... still wanna talk about recorces?

Techn9cian4life said:

I'll say it again... Yonkers is a terrible video. To the numbnuts who used the excuse of not having a high budget... Hopsin made Sag My Pants with a small budget, and that video kicks the shit out of the Yonkers video. Tyler just sits there on a stool, letting a bug crawl around on his hands. How does that get nominated for video of the year. Shit is stupid.

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