Frank Ocean Confesses Sexuality

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Permalink Reply by JazzMan on July 6, 2012 at 6:30am

Yet, you don't have any legit evidence behind it. Just because two people on a website disagree with your point of view and share similar beliefs, does not make them the same person. As for saying that you stated that you never said Psychology is a theory. You said "There may be "legit psychological studies" but definitely not substantial fact to one-hundred percent back their claims which in turn you believe". That is what defines something as a "theory". It is not practical as there is not 100% evidence behind it to make it practical. Rethink what you are saying before you contradict yourself. When you look at it, science in general doesn't have 100% evidence because you cannot prove anything at all literally to the point of being 100% true. It is realistically impossible. Science is just a theory as well. It's all about having the common sense and intellect to what seems more practical in sense of evidence regardless of whether or not it is 100% or not. I would take the side of Psychology any day over a view of someone who believes homosexuality is wrong simply because "it's not natural".
 
BottledMindFrame said:

THIS

In regards to Jazzman (Siikez's alt account) I never claimed Psychology was a theory. You're attempting to put words in my mouth (typical Siikez defense when in an argument). Also by you stating, "as for just being a theory... ever heard of the theory of gravity, or don't you believe in that either" I now have no doubt in my mind that this is Siikez's alt account as he said the exact same thing in chat to the T. You no longer have any relevance to the conversation as I'm already trying to enlighten Siikez (you on your main account) and you are cosigning yourself. That's fucking pathetic lmfao!!!

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Vin Detta said:

How ironic, Jazzman is using a stereotype against a stereotype. All of us hip-hop fans must be against homosexuals. You just made one of the most hypocritical statements I've ever seen. Look, if gay people want to get married then so be it. It doesn't effect my life in any way shape or form. I don't know if you, Jazzman, were trying to make a joke about the statement you made (which I hope you were). Because if not, you just made yourself look like a moron.

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Permalink Reply by 2s5szpayohr9r on July 6, 2012 at 6:30am

They do require an owner, you may refer to me as master whenever you choose. Another example of Siikez hypocrisy... Claims I'm twisting words while he completely twists everything I said to fit his point (or lack thereof) off the bat. You continue to display how idiotic of a numbskull you are man. Just stop at this point you're completely losing all respect and dignity. Once again you equate a few people on chat and Jazzman (your obvious alt troll account) to everybody, as if you speak for the masses. If that doesn't prove how egotistical you are then I don't know what does. You're pretty much implying you speak for a majority rather than yourself when that's definitely not the case, and you know that (that's the sad part). If homophobic outbursts are against terms of service you may want to start worrying once again relative to your definition of "standard". It would be crystal clear to any admin that I've simply stated my opinion and stance here while you on the other hand (as back with screenshot proof) have done nothing more than marked yourself as a hypocritical fucktard who's trying to make any last failed attempt to redeem himself. It's really awkward to see to be honest, pathetic at that lol!

 

Siikez said:

I thought "being owned" required the "owner" to actually make valid points? All you've done is say "I don't hate gay people, I just hate that they're gay." and when people that disagree with you (everybody) tell you the facts, you give them the same old "LOL MY POINT WENT OVER YOUR HEAD BLAH BLAH". Just face it, you're losing all credibility here and since you've pretty much outted yourself as a homophobic bigot you might as well start a new account. Also homophobic outbursts are against terms of service.... hmmmmmm.

BottledMindFrame said:

Lol you equate multiple people sharing your same opinion or view as you being right? Wow you just went past full retard, I don't even know what to call that. You have no legitimate points left (as if you ever had any) and are now resorting to a slow retreat because you finally realize how hypocritically stupid you are and that you've came across somebody who's willing to take the time to call you out on it. You are assuming that I was brought up bad because I don't share your point of view? That's completely ignorant and makes you seem even lower on the totem poll than you just were (which was barely a notch above rock bottom might I add). Like I said which is clearly apparent, every ounce of insight, knowledge, and enlightenment I continue to try and throw your way you are not able to catch. It whizzes right above your skull as you stare at it in amazement like bewildered child that you're acting like. You continue to call me a homophobe when I've just elaborately proven that by your "standards" you are also just that. There isn't much more that needs be proven at this point in all honesty. You can try to morph the facts I've provided to however you see fit but it doesn't change the original principle. How was it being owned for the second time in a row by good ol' BottledMindFrame? (yeah just hit you with third person douchebag, eat it)

Siikez said:

I think I'm going to have to start drawing pictures for you to understand things, I've never met someone so ill informed in almost every aspect of knowledge. But like I said, you can't be held accountable for the way you were brought up, you were obviously taught some terrible things that can't be fixed in your head. I still find reassurance that people like you are being thinned out. Please, continue to rant and twist words, it's a good way for more and more people to see you for the genuine homophobe you are. Still haven't found anybody that shares your point of view, let me know when they arrive. 

BottledMindFrame said:

Again I expected you to completely try to disregard the legitimate proof that you are entirely a hypocrite by putting your own take to what your huge double-standard truly is. You along with a few other people in chat were the one quoting my statement followed with the word "fag" and attempting to use it to your advantage by sarcastically saying "oh yeah... clearly not a homophobe". The fact is those were only a few screenshots of nearly dozens upon dozens of you bashing somebody else on this forum on the "you're a faggot" or "you're gay" basis. You even go in depth with your diss at times, which was already displayed. I already predicted your pathetic desperate defense before you even attempted to lay it out. That just shows how far ahead of you I really am. You then continue to dance as the puppet confined to the strings I command as I watch this unfold. It's actually very comical might I add. Funny you try to claim I'm putting a twist on things when you're the undeniably proven hypocrite as well as a habitual liar/troll/manipulator. Of course you'd try to flip the fact of that in your favor but to no avail you fail once more. Typical for someone backed up against a wall as you are, I almost feel sorry for you man (almost). You're still completely missing the point that you're obviously too feebleminded to grasp (I won't say dimwitted again seeing as how you can't come with your own insults and resort to stealing mine) which is your blantant hypocrisy and double-standard. I don't agree with a lifestyle that you can't even legitimately prove your standpoint on, so that makes me a homophobe in your eyes because you don't agree? You'd then try to solidify this by quoting me using "offensive" slang towards gays that you yourself use in an attempt to make your point seem stronger? Lmfao! Exactly why I pointed out the obvious truth in chat that you're a clown. It's okay for you to believe something that's not even unquestionably proven as well as use derogatory terms which insults a lifestyle you're defending but it's not okay for me to stand by my beliefs and speak a certain way when I actually stand by it? Please bitch, give me a break you're in over your head at this point son. I'm really talking to a wall at this point, although even conversing with dry-wall would be more entertaining than this. The funniest part about it all is you still don't seem to realize how big of a jackass you look like. Or maybe you truly do and are just too embarrassed to admit it, I wouldn't expect it from an egotistical condescending bastard such as yourself.

L(ツ)L

Siikez said:

You live by black and white, that's a sign that you were brought up this way. Call a straight person gay, they're more than likely not going to like that, hence why "gay" and "fag" is used by almost everybody as an insult, not because it's "bad to be gay" but because it's something they're not. Like calling someone a girl, a woman, or a bitch. Not because chicks are "bad" but because that dude doesn't want to be called a woman. I think you probably caught up with me now, if I give you some credit I'll just guess you understand now. But I think we've all seen now how dimwitted and stupid you are so we can expect to see pointless loop holes and twists, in a failed attempt at getting your loose ends to match up. I'm beating a dead horse here, and like you said, you don't like the 5 on 1 argument you got yourself into, so if you manage to find another human with your view point let me know. They have to be under 60 by the way. In all seriousness, I'm glad people like you are becoming thinned out. :D

BottledMindFrame said:

I expected my point to fly completely over your unintelligent mind lol. Let me put this in layman's terms for you once again as I had to in chat since that seems to be the only way you're able to grasp anything above an elementary school level. You along with a couple of others were claiming in chat that by me using words like "fag" (etc.) and by looking down upon their choice to lead that lifestyle that I'm homophobic. Are you still with me here? Try to keep up with this next point that proves how hypocritical you are. It doesn't matter if you're calling somebody who's straight or gay a "fag" (etc.) as an insult for it to imply that those people or types of behavior are perceived as bad, wrong, or shameful to you. Otherwise you wouldn't attempt to use it as an insult in the first place. Yet here you are in chat and in this thread all the sudden now a homosexual activist (lulz) when your history already shows as proven that you have no problem trying to demean other people with slurs that carry a meaning that would essentially define a homophobic in your eyes. Completely hypocritical and actually quite hilarious to me as you are trapped in a corner with nowhere to go at this point. As stated in my last post I expected you to come up with some sort of pathetic defense to undermine your proven hypocritical logic so I'm not surprised at all you'd play it off like I'm calling you homophobic. By your "standards" you're calling yourself homophobic. To say otherwise just proves your double-standard, which you just have.

P.S. LMFA(ツ) @ you jumping at the sight JazzMan cosign (who's an obvious troll and probably Siikez alt account lol)

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Permalink Reply by ֆӄʐ ♔ on July 6, 2012 at 6:32am

I shouldn't have replied at the exact same time as you, that ruins half the mystique that I'm you. :( We could fuck with his head right now lmao. 

JazzMan said:

Yet, you don't have any legit evidence behind it. Just because two people on a website disagree with your point of view and share similar beliefs, does not make them the same person. As for saying that you stated that you never said Psychology is a theory. You said "There may be "legit psychological studies" but definitely not substantial fact to one-hundred percent back their claims which in turn you believe". That is what defines something as a "theory". It is not practical as there is not 100% evidence behind it to make it practical. Rethink what you are saying before you contradict yourself. When you look at it, science in general doesn't have 100% evidence because you cannot prove anything at all literally to the point of being 100% true. It is realistically impossible. Science is just a theory as well. It's all about having the common sense and intellect to what seems more practical in sense of evidence regardless of whether or not it is 100% or not. I would take the side of Psychology any day over a view of someone who believes homosexuality is wrong simply because "it's not natural".
 
BottledMindFrame said:

THIS

In regards to Jazzman (Siikez's alt account) I never claimed Psychology was a theory. You're attempting to put words in my mouth (typical Siikez defense when in an argument). Also by you stating, "as for just being a theory... ever heard of the theory of gravity, or don't you believe in that either" I now have no doubt in my mind that this is Siikez's alt account as he said the exact same thing in chat to the T. You no longer have any relevance to the conversation as I'm already trying to enlighten Siikez (you on your main account) and you are cosigning yourself. That's fucking pathetic lmfao!!!

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Vin Detta said:

How ironic, Jazzman is using a stereotype against a stereotype. All of us hip-hop fans must be against homosexuals. You just made one of the most hypocritical statements I've ever seen. Look, if gay people want to get married then so be it. It doesn't effect my life in any way shape or form. I don't know if you, Jazzman, were trying to make a joke about the statement you made (which I hope you were). Because if not, you just made yourself look like a moron.

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Permalink Reply by 2s5szpayohr9r on July 6, 2012 at 6:34am

L(ツ)L @ Jazzman (Siikez) now going out of his way to cover up that he's Siikez (Jazzman)

As stated you no longer have relevance to the debate as you're obviously Siikez attempting to double your rebuttals (which are biased and one sided). That is all.

JazzMan said:

Yet, you don't have any legit evidence behind it. Just because two people on a website disagree with your point of view and share similar beliefs, does not make them the same person. As for saying that you stated that you never said Psychology is a theory. You said "There may be "legit psychological studies" but definitely not substantial fact to one-hundred percent back their claims which in turn you believe". That is what defines something as a "theory". It is not practical as there is not 100% evidence behind it to make it practical. Rethink what you are saying before you contradict yourself. When you look at it, science in general doesn't have 100% evidence because you cannot prove anything at all literally to the point of being 100% true. It is realistically impossible. Science is just a theory as well. It's all about having the common sense and intellect to what seems more practical in sense of evidence regardless of whether or not it is 100% or not. I would take the side of Psychology any day over a view of someone who believes homosexuality is wrong simply because "it's not natural".
 
BottledMindFrame said:

THIS

In regards to Jazzman (Siikez's alt account) I never claimed Psychology was a theory. You're attempting to put words in my mouth (typical Siikez defense when in an argument). Also by you stating, "as for just being a theory... ever heard of the theory of gravity, or don't you believe in that either" I now have no doubt in my mind that this is Siikez's alt account as he said the exact same thing in chat to the T. You no longer have any relevance to the conversation as I'm already trying to enlighten Siikez (you on your main account) and you are cosigning yourself. That's fucking pathetic lmfao!!!

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Vin Detta said:

How ironic, Jazzman is using a stereotype against a stereotype. All of us hip-hop fans must be against homosexuals. You just made one of the most hypocritical statements I've ever seen. Look, if gay people want to get married then so be it. It doesn't effect my life in any way shape or form. I don't know if you, Jazzman, were trying to make a joke about the statement you made (which I hope you were). Because if not, you just made yourself look like a moron.

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Permalink Reply by Vin Detta on July 6, 2012 at 6:36am

Oh boy. Then in that case your argument is invalid as well. The reason why I'm being defensive is because you're judging people and that makes you the fool. Like I said, I have no problem with gay people and I'm sure there are plenty of others on here that don't as well. So, you need to try not being so self-righteous and a hypocrite. Not everyone is the same.


JazzMan said:

Fact of the matter is, it is not a stereotype if it actually has truth behind it, a stereotype would be saying that every single one of them is against homosexuals, when in actual fact I said most, which is actual truth. I have been on this site for a while and through my experiences here, on other sites and in public, I have come to terms that most people within the hip hop community are in fact against homosexuals, it is not a stereotype in any way when you take into consideration how many people actually take part in hating on homosexuals. 

If you are offended with the insults I have made to others on here, then there must be some truth behind it, because if it did not apply to you, why do you feel the nerve to attack me for them. Do you not feel apart of the group which I have stated are not homophobic or white trash? What is your need to generalize everything down to a stereotype in order for the statements I said to have meaning? You claim that I have insulted TRTN's fanbase, yet you also threw an insult at me ("jackass") which makes the statements you're saying of me being a hypocrite invalid, you cannot get your point across of being insulted by throwing an insult, that is a great example of what irony and contradiction is. Please revaluate what you said before jumping to conclusions on my beliefs which are mine solely and have my own meanings developed into them. Perception is the mother of deception and this right here is a perfect example.
 
Vin Detta said:

Okay, let me rephrase that. You said most fans who are on this page who are white trash that are against homosexuals. There. You feel better now, jackass?

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Permalink Reply by ֆӄʐ ♔ on July 6, 2012 at 6:36am

You should join FOX news, they might have a pretty decent seat for you.

As for me..

BottledMindFrame said:

They do require an owner, you may refer to me as master whenever you choose. Another example of Siikez hypocrisy... Claims I'm twisting words while he completely twists everything I said to fit his point (or lack thereof) off the bat. You continue to display how idiotic of a numbskull you are man. Just stop at this point you're completely losing all respect and dignity. Once again you equate a few people on chat and Jazzman (your obvious alt troll account) to everybody, as if you speak for the masses. If that doesn't prove how egotistical you are then I don't know what does. You're pretty much implying you speak for a majority rather than yourself when that's definitely not the case, and you know that (that's the sad part). If homophobic outbursts are against terms of service you may want to start worrying once again relative to your definition of "standard". It would be crystal clear to any admin that I've simply stated my opinion and stance here while you on the other hand (as back with screenshot proof) have done nothing more than marked yourself as a hypocritical fucktard who's trying to make any last failed attempt to redeem himself. It's really awkward to see to be honest, pathetic at that lol!

 

Siikez said:

I thought "being owned" required the "owner" to actually make valid points? All you've done is say "I don't hate gay people, I just hate that they're gay." and when people that disagree with you (everybody) tell you the facts, you give them the same old "LOL MY POINT WENT OVER YOUR HEAD BLAH BLAH". Just face it, you're losing all credibility here and since you've pretty much outted yourself as a homophobic bigot you might as well start a new account. Also homophobic outbursts are against terms of service.... hmmmmmm.

BottledMindFrame said:

Lol you equate multiple people sharing your same opinion or view as you being right? Wow you just went past full retard, I don't even know what to call that. You have no legitimate points left (as if you ever had any) and are now resorting to a slow retreat because you finally realize how hypocritically stupid you are and that you've came across somebody who's willing to take the time to call you out on it. You are assuming that I was brought up bad because I don't share your point of view? That's completely ignorant and makes you seem even lower on the totem poll than you just were (which was barely a notch above rock bottom might I add). Like I said which is clearly apparent, every ounce of insight, knowledge, and enlightenment I continue to try and throw your way you are not able to catch. It whizzes right above your skull as you stare at it in amazement like bewildered child that you're acting like. You continue to call me a homophobe when I've just elaborately proven that by your "standards" you are also just that. There isn't much more that needs be proven at this point in all honesty. You can try to morph the facts I've provided to however you see fit but it doesn't change the original principle. How was it being owned for the second time in a row by good ol' BottledMindFrame? (yeah just hit you with third person douchebag, eat it)

Siikez said:

I think I'm going to have to start drawing pictures for you to understand things, I've never met someone so ill informed in almost every aspect of knowledge. But like I said, you can't be held accountable for the way you were brought up, you were obviously taught some terrible things that can't be fixed in your head. I still find reassurance that people like you are being thinned out. Please, continue to rant and twist words, it's a good way for more and more people to see you for the genuine homophobe you are. Still haven't found anybody that shares your point of view, let me know when they arrive. 

BottledMindFrame said:

Again I expected you to completely try to disregard the legitimate proof that you are entirely a hypocrite by putting your own take to what your huge double-standard truly is. You along with a few other people in chat were the one quoting my statement followed with the word "fag" and attempting to use it to your advantage by sarcastically saying "oh yeah... clearly not a homophobe". The fact is those were only a few screenshots of nearly dozens upon dozens of you bashing somebody else on this forum on the "you're a faggot" or "you're gay" basis. You even go in depth with your diss at times, which was already displayed. I already predicted your pathetic desperate defense before you even attempted to lay it out. That just shows how far ahead of you I really am. You then continue to dance as the puppet confined to the strings I command as I watch this unfold. It's actually very comical might I add. Funny you try to claim I'm putting a twist on things when you're the undeniably proven hypocrite as well as a habitual liar/troll/manipulator. Of course you'd try to flip the fact of that in your favor but to no avail you fail once more. Typical for someone backed up against a wall as you are, I almost feel sorry for you man (almost). You're still completely missing the point that you're obviously too feebleminded to grasp (I won't say dimwitted again seeing as how you can't come with your own insults and resort to stealing mine) which is your blantant hypocrisy and double-standard. I don't agree with a lifestyle that you can't even legitimately prove your standpoint on, so that makes me a homophobe in your eyes because you don't agree? You'd then try to solidify this by quoting me using "offensive" slang towards gays that you yourself use in an attempt to make your point seem stronger? Lmfao! Exactly why I pointed out the obvious truth in chat that you're a clown. It's okay for you to believe something that's not even unquestionably proven as well as use derogatory terms which insults a lifestyle you're defending but it's not okay for me to stand by my beliefs and speak a certain way when I actually stand by it? Please bitch, give me a break you're in over your head at this point son. I'm really talking to a wall at this point, although even conversing with dry-wall would be more entertaining than this. The funniest part about it all is you still don't seem to realize how big of a jackass you look like. Or maybe you truly do and are just too embarrassed to admit it, I wouldn't expect it from an egotistical condescending bastard such as yourself.

L(ツ)L

Siikez said:

You live by black and white, that's a sign that you were brought up this way. Call a straight person gay, they're more than likely not going to like that, hence why "gay" and "fag" is used by almost everybody as an insult, not because it's "bad to be gay" but because it's something they're not. Like calling someone a girl, a woman, or a bitch. Not because chicks are "bad" but because that dude doesn't want to be called a woman. I think you probably caught up with me now, if I give you some credit I'll just guess you understand now. But I think we've all seen now how dimwitted and stupid you are so we can expect to see pointless loop holes and twists, in a failed attempt at getting your loose ends to match up. I'm beating a dead horse here, and like you said, you don't like the 5 on 1 argument you got yourself into, so if you manage to find another human with your view point let me know. They have to be under 60 by the way. In all seriousness, I'm glad people like you are becoming thinned out. :D

BottledMindFrame said:

I expected my point to fly completely over your unintelligent mind lol. Let me put this in layman's terms for you once again as I had to in chat since that seems to be the only way you're able to grasp anything above an elementary school level. You along with a couple of others were claiming in chat that by me using words like "fag" (etc.) and by looking down upon their choice to lead that lifestyle that I'm homophobic. Are you still with me here? Try to keep up with this next point that proves how hypocritical you are. It doesn't matter if you're calling somebody who's straight or gay a "fag" (etc.) as an insult for it to imply that those people or types of behavior are perceived as bad, wrong, or shameful to you. Otherwise you wouldn't attempt to use it as an insult in the first place. Yet here you are in chat and in this thread all the sudden now a homosexual activist (lulz) when your history already shows as proven that you have no problem trying to demean other people with slurs that carry a meaning that would essentially define a homophobic in your eyes. Completely hypocritical and actually quite hilarious to me as you are trapped in a corner with nowhere to go at this point. As stated in my last post I expected you to come up with some sort of pathetic defense to undermine your proven hypocritical logic so I'm not surprised at all you'd play it off like I'm calling you homophobic. By your "standards" you're calling yourself homophobic. To say otherwise just proves your double-standard, which you just have.

P.S. LMFA(ツ) @ you jumping at the sight JazzMan cosign (who's an obvious troll and probably Siikez alt account lol)

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Permalink Reply by 2s5szpayohr9r on July 6, 2012 at 6:37am

R(ツ)FLC(ツ)PTER ENGAGED @ Siikez (Jazzman) trying to post simultaneously with his troll alt account and going out of his way to reemphasize it as if that's fooling anybody

Lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol

Siikez said:

I shouldn't have replied at the exact same time as you, that ruins half the mystique that I'm you. :( We could fuck with his head right now lmao. 

JazzMan said:

Yet, you don't have any legit evidence behind it. Just because two people on a website disagree with your point of view and share similar beliefs, does not make them the same person. As for saying that you stated that you never said Psychology is a theory. You said "There may be "legit psychological studies" but definitely not substantial fact to one-hundred percent back their claims which in turn you believe". That is what defines something as a "theory". It is not practical as there is not 100% evidence behind it to make it practical. Rethink what you are saying before you contradict yourself. When you look at it, science in general doesn't have 100% evidence because you cannot prove anything at all literally to the point of being 100% true. It is realistically impossible. Science is just a theory as well. It's all about having the common sense and intellect to what seems more practical in sense of evidence regardless of whether or not it is 100% or not. I would take the side of Psychology any day over a view of someone who believes homosexuality is wrong simply because "it's not natural".
 
BottledMindFrame said:

THIS

In regards to Jazzman (Siikez's alt account) I never claimed Psychology was a theory. You're attempting to put words in my mouth (typical Siikez defense when in an argument). Also by you stating, "as for just being a theory... ever heard of the theory of gravity, or don't you believe in that either" I now have no doubt in my mind that this is Siikez's alt account as he said the exact same thing in chat to the T. You no longer have any relevance to the conversation as I'm already trying to enlighten Siikez (you on your main account) and you are cosigning yourself. That's fucking pathetic lmfao!!!

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Vin Detta said:

How ironic, Jazzman is using a stereotype against a stereotype. All of us hip-hop fans must be against homosexuals. You just made one of the most hypocritical statements I've ever seen. Look, if gay people want to get married then so be it. It doesn't effect my life in any way shape or form. I don't know if you, Jazzman, were trying to make a joke about the statement you made (which I hope you were). Because if not, you just made yourself look like a moron.

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Permalink Reply by JazzMan on July 6, 2012 at 6:38am

Once again, way to disregard what I said, whether or not Jazzman is also Siikez, despite Siikez inviting you to join us in chat to debunk that myth, is irrevelant. What is important is that you are completely avoiding what I said, which has all relevance to what is going on.
 
BottledMindFrame said:

L(ツ)L @ Jazzman (Siikez) now going out of his way to cover up that he's Siikez (Jazzman)

As stated you no longer have relevance to the debate as you're obviously Siikez attempting to double your rebuttals (which are biased and one sided). That is all.

JazzMan said:

Yet, you don't have any legit evidence behind it. Just because two people on a website disagree with your point of view and share similar beliefs, does not make them the same person. As for saying that you stated that you never said Psychology is a theory. You said "There may be "legit psychological studies" but definitely not substantial fact to one-hundred percent back their claims which in turn you believe". That is what defines something as a "theory". It is not practical as there is not 100% evidence behind it to make it practical. Rethink what you are saying before you contradict yourself. When you look at it, science in general doesn't have 100% evidence because you cannot prove anything at all literally to the point of being 100% true. It is realistically impossible. Science is just a theory as well. It's all about having the common sense and intellect to what seems more practical in sense of evidence regardless of whether or not it is 100% or not. I would take the side of Psychology any day over a view of someone who believes homosexuality is wrong simply because "it's not natural".
 
BottledMindFrame said:

THIS

In regards to Jazzman (Siikez's alt account) I never claimed Psychology was a theory. You're attempting to put words in my mouth (typical Siikez defense when in an argument). Also by you stating, "as for just being a theory... ever heard of the theory of gravity, or don't you believe in that either" I now have no doubt in my mind that this is Siikez's alt account as he said the exact same thing in chat to the T. You no longer have any relevance to the conversation as I'm already trying to enlighten Siikez (you on your main account) and you are cosigning yourself. That's fucking pathetic lmfao!!!

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Vin Detta said:

How ironic, Jazzman is using a stereotype against a stereotype. All of us hip-hop fans must be against homosexuals. You just made one of the most hypocritical statements I've ever seen. Look, if gay people want to get married then so be it. It doesn't effect my life in any way shape or form. I don't know if you, Jazzman, were trying to make a joke about the statement you made (which I hope you were). Because if not, you just made yourself look like a moron.

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Permalink Reply by 2s5szpayohr9r on July 6, 2012 at 6:39am

Siikez resorting to memes because he knows he's been undoubtedly mangled in a battle of intelligence and intellectuality. Honestly expected more from you (I don't know why) but you proved to be an even bigger douchebag than I had originally thought. 

Siikez said:

You should join FOX news, they might have a pretty decent seat for you.

As for me..

BottledMindFrame said:

They do require an owner, you may refer to me as master whenever you choose. Another example of Siikez hypocrisy... Claims I'm twisting words while he completely twists everything I said to fit his point (or lack thereof) off the bat. You continue to display how idiotic of a numbskull you are man. Just stop at this point you're completely losing all respect and dignity. Once again you equate a few people on chat and Jazzman (your obvious alt troll account) to everybody, as if you speak for the masses. If that doesn't prove how egotistical you are then I don't know what does. You're pretty much implying you speak for a majority rather than yourself when that's definitely not the case, and you know that (that's the sad part). If homophobic outbursts are against terms of service you may want to start worrying once again relative to your definition of "standard". It would be crystal clear to any admin that I've simply stated my opinion and stance here while you on the other hand (as back with screenshot proof) have done nothing more than marked yourself as a hypocritical fucktard who's trying to make any last failed attempt to redeem himself. It's really awkward to see to be honest, pathetic at that lol!

 

Siikez said:

I thought "being owned" required the "owner" to actually make valid points? All you've done is say "I don't hate gay people, I just hate that they're gay." and when people that disagree with you (everybody) tell you the facts, you give them the same old "LOL MY POINT WENT OVER YOUR HEAD BLAH BLAH". Just face it, you're losing all credibility here and since you've pretty much outted yourself as a homophobic bigot you might as well start a new account. Also homophobic outbursts are against terms of service.... hmmmmmm.

BottledMindFrame said:

Lol you equate multiple people sharing your same opinion or view as you being right? Wow you just went past full retard, I don't even know what to call that. You have no legitimate points left (as if you ever had any) and are now resorting to a slow retreat because you finally realize how hypocritically stupid you are and that you've came across somebody who's willing to take the time to call you out on it. You are assuming that I was brought up bad because I don't share your point of view? That's completely ignorant and makes you seem even lower on the totem poll than you just were (which was barely a notch above rock bottom might I add). Like I said which is clearly apparent, every ounce of insight, knowledge, and enlightenment I continue to try and throw your way you are not able to catch. It whizzes right above your skull as you stare at it in amazement like bewildered child that you're acting like. You continue to call me a homophobe when I've just elaborately proven that by your "standards" you are also just that. There isn't much more that needs be proven at this point in all honesty. You can try to morph the facts I've provided to however you see fit but it doesn't change the original principle. How was it being owned for the second time in a row by good ol' BottledMindFrame? (yeah just hit you with third person douchebag, eat it)

Siikez said:

I think I'm going to have to start drawing pictures for you to understand things, I've never met someone so ill informed in almost every aspect of knowledge. But like I said, you can't be held accountable for the way you were brought up, you were obviously taught some terrible things that can't be fixed in your head. I still find reassurance that people like you are being thinned out. Please, continue to rant and twist words, it's a good way for more and more people to see you for the genuine homophobe you are. Still haven't found anybody that shares your point of view, let me know when they arrive. 

BottledMindFrame said:

Again I expected you to completely try to disregard the legitimate proof that you are entirely a hypocrite by putting your own take to what your huge double-standard truly is. You along with a few other people in chat were the one quoting my statement followed with the word "fag" and attempting to use it to your advantage by sarcastically saying "oh yeah... clearly not a homophobe". The fact is those were only a few screenshots of nearly dozens upon dozens of you bashing somebody else on this forum on the "you're a faggot" or "you're gay" basis. You even go in depth with your diss at times, which was already displayed. I already predicted your pathetic desperate defense before you even attempted to lay it out. That just shows how far ahead of you I really am. You then continue to dance as the puppet confined to the strings I command as I watch this unfold. It's actually very comical might I add. Funny you try to claim I'm putting a twist on things when you're the undeniably proven hypocrite as well as a habitual liar/troll/manipulator. Of course you'd try to flip the fact of that in your favor but to no avail you fail once more. Typical for someone backed up against a wall as you are, I almost feel sorry for you man (almost). You're still completely missing the point that you're obviously too feebleminded to grasp (I won't say dimwitted again seeing as how you can't come with your own insults and resort to stealing mine) which is your blantant hypocrisy and double-standard. I don't agree with a lifestyle that you can't even legitimately prove your standpoint on, so that makes me a homophobe in your eyes because you don't agree? You'd then try to solidify this by quoting me using "offensive" slang towards gays that you yourself use in an attempt to make your point seem stronger? Lmfao! Exactly why I pointed out the obvious truth in chat that you're a clown. It's okay for you to believe something that's not even unquestionably proven as well as use derogatory terms which insults a lifestyle you're defending but it's not okay for me to stand by my beliefs and speak a certain way when I actually stand by it? Please bitch, give me a break you're in over your head at this point son. I'm really talking to a wall at this point, although even conversing with dry-wall would be more entertaining than this. The funniest part about it all is you still don't seem to realize how big of a jackass you look like. Or maybe you truly do and are just too embarrassed to admit it, I wouldn't expect it from an egotistical condescending bastard such as yourself.

L(ツ)L

Siikez said:

You live by black and white, that's a sign that you were brought up this way. Call a straight person gay, they're more than likely not going to like that, hence why "gay" and "fag" is used by almost everybody as an insult, not because it's "bad to be gay" but because it's something they're not. Like calling someone a girl, a woman, or a bitch. Not because chicks are "bad" but because that dude doesn't want to be called a woman. I think you probably caught up with me now, if I give you some credit I'll just guess you understand now. But I think we've all seen now how dimwitted and stupid you are so we can expect to see pointless loop holes and twists, in a failed attempt at getting your loose ends to match up. I'm beating a dead horse here, and like you said, you don't like the 5 on 1 argument you got yourself into, so if you manage to find another human with your view point let me know. They have to be under 60 by the way. In all seriousness, I'm glad people like you are becoming thinned out. :D

BottledMindFrame said:

I expected my point to fly completely over your unintelligent mind lol. Let me put this in layman's terms for you once again as I had to in chat since that seems to be the only way you're able to grasp anything above an elementary school level. You along with a couple of others were claiming in chat that by me using words like "fag" (etc.) and by looking down upon their choice to lead that lifestyle that I'm homophobic. Are you still with me here? Try to keep up with this next point that proves how hypocritical you are. It doesn't matter if you're calling somebody who's straight or gay a "fag" (etc.) as an insult for it to imply that those people or types of behavior are perceived as bad, wrong, or shameful to you. Otherwise you wouldn't attempt to use it as an insult in the first place. Yet here you are in chat and in this thread all the sudden now a homosexual activist (lulz) when your history already shows as proven that you have no problem trying to demean other people with slurs that carry a meaning that would essentially define a homophobic in your eyes. Completely hypocritical and actually quite hilarious to me as you are trapped in a corner with nowhere to go at this point. As stated in my last post I expected you to come up with some sort of pathetic defense to undermine your proven hypocritical logic so I'm not surprised at all you'd play it off like I'm calling you homophobic. By your "standards" you're calling yourself homophobic. To say otherwise just proves your double-standard, which you just have.

P.S. LMFA(ツ) @ you jumping at the sight JazzMan cosign (who's an obvious troll and probably Siikez alt account lol)

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Permalink Reply by ֆӄʐ ♔ on July 6, 2012 at 6:40am

Holy meltdown Lmao.

BottledMindFrame said:

R(ツ)FLC(ツ)PTER ENGAGED @ Siikez (Jazzman) trying to post simultaneously with his troll alt account and going out of his way to reemphasize it as if that's fooling anybody

Lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol

Siikez said:

I shouldn't have replied at the exact same time as you, that ruins half the mystique that I'm you. :( We could fuck with his head right now lmao. 

JazzMan said:

Yet, you don't have any legit evidence behind it. Just because two people on a website disagree with your point of view and share similar beliefs, does not make them the same person. As for saying that you stated that you never said Psychology is a theory. You said "There may be "legit psychological studies" but definitely not substantial fact to one-hundred percent back their claims which in turn you believe". That is what defines something as a "theory". It is not practical as there is not 100% evidence behind it to make it practical. Rethink what you are saying before you contradict yourself. When you look at it, science in general doesn't have 100% evidence because you cannot prove anything at all literally to the point of being 100% true. It is realistically impossible. Science is just a theory as well. It's all about having the common sense and intellect to what seems more practical in sense of evidence regardless of whether or not it is 100% or not. I would take the side of Psychology any day over a view of someone who believes homosexuality is wrong simply because "it's not natural".
 
BottledMindFrame said:

THIS

In regards to Jazzman (Siikez's alt account) I never claimed Psychology was a theory. You're attempting to put words in my mouth (typical Siikez defense when in an argument). Also by you stating, "as for just being a theory... ever heard of the theory of gravity, or don't you believe in that either" I now have no doubt in my mind that this is Siikez's alt account as he said the exact same thing in chat to the T. You no longer have any relevance to the conversation as I'm already trying to enlighten Siikez (you on your main account) and you are cosigning yourself. That's fucking pathetic lmfao!!!

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Vin Detta said:

How ironic, Jazzman is using a stereotype against a stereotype. All of us hip-hop fans must be against homosexuals. You just made one of the most hypocritical statements I've ever seen. Look, if gay people want to get married then so be it. It doesn't effect my life in any way shape or form. I don't know if you, Jazzman, were trying to make a joke about the statement you made (which I hope you were). Because if not, you just made yourself look like a moron.

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Permalink Reply by ֆӄʐ ♔ on July 6, 2012 at 6:41am

I love this thread now XD

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Permalink Reply by 2s5szpayohr9r on July 6, 2012 at 6:43am

The epic lulz just keep ensuing from your obvious douchefuckery. I mean seriously who does that shit man? You can play it off however you'd like, you've been exposed lmfao!

Siikez said:

Holy meltdown Lmao.

BottledMindFrame said:

R(ツ)FLC(ツ)PTER ENGAGED @ Siikez (Jazzman) trying to post simultaneously with his troll alt account and going out of his way to reemphasize it as if that's fooling anybody

Lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol

Siikez said:

I shouldn't have replied at the exact same time as you, that ruins half the mystique that I'm you. :( We could fuck with his head right now lmao. 

JazzMan said:

Yet, you don't have any legit evidence behind it. Just because two people on a website disagree with your point of view and share similar beliefs, does not make them the same person. As for saying that you stated that you never said Psychology is a theory. You said "There may be "legit psychological studies" but definitely not substantial fact to one-hundred percent back their claims which in turn you believe". That is what defines something as a "theory". It is not practical as there is not 100% evidence behind it to make it practical. Rethink what you are saying before you contradict yourself. When you look at it, science in general doesn't have 100% evidence because you cannot prove anything at all literally to the point of being 100% true. It is realistically impossible. Science is just a theory as well. It's all about having the common sense and intellect to what seems more practical in sense of evidence regardless of whether or not it is 100% or not. I would take the side of Psychology any day over a view of someone who believes homosexuality is wrong simply because "it's not natural".
 
BottledMindFrame said:

THIS

In regards to Jazzman (Siikez's alt account) I never claimed Psychology was a theory. You're attempting to put words in my mouth (typical Siikez defense when in an argument). Also by you stating, "as for just being a theory... ever heard of the theory of gravity, or don't you believe in that either" I now have no doubt in my mind that this is Siikez's alt account as he said the exact same thing in chat to the T. You no longer have any relevance to the conversation as I'm already trying to enlighten Siikez (you on your main account) and you are cosigning yourself. That's fucking pathetic lmfao!!!

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Vin Detta said:

How ironic, Jazzman is using a stereotype against a stereotype. All of us hip-hop fans must be against homosexuals. You just made one of the most hypocritical statements I've ever seen. Look, if gay people want to get married then so be it. It doesn't effect my life in any way shape or form. I don't know if you, Jazzman, were trying to make a joke about the statement you made (which I hope you were). Because if not, you just made yourself look like a moron.

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