2Pac hologram performance *AMAZING*

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Permalink Reply by Magyk on April 18, 2012 at 8:05am

That makes me feel a little bit better about it.

Cole said:

She did sign off on it, and loved how it turned out.. Dre asked her beforehand. And to thank her for letting them do it, Dre made a donation to Tupac's charity.

Magyk said:

How long before a hologram Biggie is on stage with Pac? It's complete bullshit.

I'm sure Afeni Shakur would have to sign off on this shit, so at least she's getting a cut. Em needs to talk some sense into Dre.

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Permalink Reply by The Crazy Englishman! on April 18, 2012 at 8:48am

Wouldnt be difficult, im sure Pac has said the words 'What up' and 'Dre' before lol. I mean, like i said i may be gettin too mad, but id rather be mad now than regret it later lol. Imo. The entire show was something pac wouldn't have done cause it was a recreation and not old footage.

Siikez said:

Lol yeah I can agree as far as it being wrong if they use it to make Pac do something he wouldn't do if he was alive, like performing with Bieber, that would be an insult for sure lol. I can't imagine them using it too much as I say it would cost them way too much. But yeah as for the "what up Dre" I don't know how exactly they did it, but I'm sure they were limited to the usable audio they had. Eh I don't know man I'm honestly not bothered by it at all, but I can see how some people could be. 

The Crazy Englishman! said:

Haha its all good man, I dont really trust people that always agree anyway. The beef itself doesn't bother me too much, thats just an added point. I dont know exactly how much the two were in beef, but it pissed me off that one of the first things the hologram said was 'whatup dre'. Thats gonna go down in history, not as a major point, but its been recorded. I see it as, if pac wouldnt of said it when he was alive, its no ones place to make him say it now hes dead. I agree that it must have been an immense feeling to be there, and if i was there, id probaly have got caught up in the hype as well until i got time to reflect on it. Its not the fact that hes not a hip hop head, its the fact that its a further abuse of a legend. The reason it happened wasnt about Pac, it was about the wow factor of having tupac, one of the biggest people hip hop fans wish hadnt left too early, back on stage and they were the ones to do it. I dont really like impersonators, not on the level of this, but just cause normally they're tacky and exagerated, but its just a guy in a suit pretending to be someone. This, however, is catching headlines like 'Tupac ressurected', as if its an honest portrayal of the guy even though its been built from scratch, not a holographic representation of something he actually did. Its been made as if its tupac on the stage as he would be now, not counting physical appearance. The way i see it, it isnt a tribute, its more of a sideshow. Its taken centre stage now, because of how mindblowing it is, i wont deny the holographs insane technology and shit. Way i see it is, if you cant get tupac on stage, then dont, because its not him doing that shit, its a script, and with a script, comes twisted words and false actions. I may be gettin too mad about it but i would prefer to send the message that you cant fuck with a dead guys life, legacy and impression early on in the hope that they dont take it further, than wait till that day to speak up. Its not tupac if they're makin him say things he never said and do things he never did, if you do that, the hologram is nothing but a holographic lie tied to strings with greedy motherfuckers who forgot who pac was, and what he meant to them, and to music. What theyve done with this shit, is portray exactly how the people runnin "Hip Hop" would like their artists to be, puppets on strings that cant refuse their orders. How long till theyve got a tupac hologram on stage with Justin Bieber. Tell me that wouldn't happen? Artists alive today that shouldnt work with the cunt, are, purely out of 'good business and profit' not respect for his 'talent', if people can pull those strings on someone with free will, how long till they do it with something they just need to press 'on' to make em dance.

Siikez said:

This doesn't happen often my friend but I completely disagree lol. I don't think any listeners/viewers should be offended or outraged by something that never involved them directly, when people get pissy about stuff like this it makes me think they just want to be considered "in the loop" in which the beef encompassed. But it was years ago, if he was alive now, the beef would have been squashed alooong time ago. And Imagine how that would have felt for Snoop, the people at the concert, and the others that performed. Would have been an epic feeling. And I don't see the harm in it being James Cameron, he has the technology to do so and the people wanted it, so it happened. I don't think James Cameron needs to be a hip hop head to contribute lol it's not like they could have got the Technology elsewhere. Do you feel the same way about the Elvis lookalikes or the MJ lookalikes putting on concerts and prancing around? I don't see the harm in it really, but I don't know some people are more iffy about that sort of thing. It's a tribute in my eyes, an expensive one lol and that's all. They'll never make a killer profit from this, the shit prolly costs more than the show brought in lol.

The Crazy Englishman! said:

It was at least one random rapper though, the one that organised it, dre, Pac wasnt on the best terms with when he died. I dont care whether that beef would have been squashed but it wasnt, Pac died not liking dre, so his legacy should be kept that way. At the end of the day, Dre and anyone else involved, now have a walking, talking and dancing Tupac to prance about on stage whenever they like, doing whatever they want, and Tupac has no say in it at all. They dont have to pay him, they dont have to feed him, clothe him, fuckall. Just turn on the projector and BOOM they're makin money off Pac. Its an abuse of tupac, his music and his legacy. Also, Digital domain is the company that created the visuals, owned by James Cameron, Stan Winston and Scott Ross. James Cameron's involvement was probably more, "Look at me and what i can do" using Tupacs, and hip hops, fan base to kick start it, than it was anything to do with Pac.

Alex M said:

Yea man good point. I agree about it hyping the festival for the future. Personally I never heard of Coachella until now. The place already gets packed. Like you said prices will probably go up for tickets next year after this. I think it was a great tribute. Since it was with Snoop and Dre, 2 rappers he was close too when he was alive, then I have no problem with it. If it was some random rappers that had no relationship with 2pac then it would be a huge stunt. I hope festivals don't start this hologram trend now. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Biggie and Eazy E performing as holograms in the future. It's touching and unique once and that's it.

The Crazy Englishman! said:

I don't think they used it to hype the show, they used it for the hype the show will now get. I don't think they made a huge profit off the performance, but I think this was used to find a lane to make money in the future. I personally just don't like the idea of a dead guys body being puppeteered on a stage, fair enough i have no idea how pac would feel about it, but that fact should be more reason to not do it. I just think you're given a life to live and whatever impression you make while breathing is your impression, other people shouldn't be adding to it after your death, its not really their place. People are acting like tupacs done another show, but in reality, someones dressed a lightshow up as pac, which, while an amazing use of technology, its fucked up. I guess I just like term, rest for the dead.

Alex M said:

I completely disagree with you. This was about none of that. You think they used this to hype the show? It was speculated that they were going to have Pac performing as a hologram. No one actually knew it was going to happen. You think they made a huge profit from that performance. It probably cost a ton of money to put that together. They got all the money from Dre, Snoop, Kendrick Lamar, 50 cent, and Eminem performing. While I'm typing I'll add out of no where that Eminem has lost his flow and delivery. It was shocking how terrible he sounded.

The Crazy Englishman! said:

Wont try an chat shit, the hologram itself is fuckin sick, its crazy what technology can do today, but this just shows the music industrys true colours. Theyve finally got an artist they can permanantly attatch strings to an make em dance. It aint about pac, its about the hype, the trend and the money. He already got robbed of his money while he was alive, and motherfuckers are still in his pockets now hes dead.

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Permalink Reply by omzig85 on April 18, 2012 at 2:19pm

cant wait for the tour tupac dre snoop bring eminem and ice cube along for it up in smoke 2 it would sell out everywhere and who cares about the hologram id pay just to see dre tour again with eminem

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Permalink Reply by LadyNorthKuttz on April 18, 2012 at 11:54pm

Lol!!!

Evan Kettler said:

Hologram porn is gonna be hype 

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Permalink Reply by ₡₱♛ on April 19, 2012 at 3:19am

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Permalink Reply by VIP on April 20, 2012 at 2:13am

This, and Jedi Pac made my fuckin night, thx Cole.

And to address the Pac/Dre beef, that was completely instigated and manipulated by Suge. You can attribute every word Pac ever said about Dre to the big fat fuck with the cigar.  Watch some old clips of Suge around Pac, he literally was the the devil on his shoulder whispering in his ear. Fuck Suge.

 
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Permalink Reply by Tommy Dervan on April 25, 2012 at 2:05am

This is exactly how I feel. I don't care what your justification is... Tupac was murdered and they never found out who killed him. No one should have the luxury of listening to him live, they should just respect that he is gone. Too bad for you if you never bought a ticket when he was alive and in your city, and too bad if you weren't born yet :P

The Crazy Englishman! said:

Wont try an chat shit, the hologram itself is fuckin sick, its crazy what technology can do today, but this just shows the music industrys true colours. Theyve finally got an artist they can permanantly attatch strings to an make em dance. It aint about pac, its about the hype, the trend and the money. He already got robbed of his money while he was alive, and motherfuckers are still in his pockets now hes dead.

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